Binro the Heretic - 2016-11-10
No, they were scared and angry.
You know? Irrational.
Yes, there were some genuine unrepentant assholes, but for the most part they're people who have been fucked hard by the system. And unfortunately when the people running the system told them to direct their anger at other people fucked hard by the system, they did so because they were scared, angry and irrational.
Their jobs have been taken away. Their power has been taken away. And everyone hated them and mocked them for the way they lived their lives.
And I know it feels good to lash back out at them in retaliation. I know it feels good to call them out on their bigotry and general shittyness, but that's just going to escalate the situation and perpetuate the problem.
Let them strut and crow about what they see as their "victory" for now. It won't be long before they're let down by the man they hoped would make their lives better. We need to be there for them. If we're not, they could become the American equivalent of ISIS.
For the sake of humanity, this just has to stop.
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simon666 - 2016-11-10 This is how people are strutting and crowing about their victory. This is a collection of tweets from people of color and their experiences the past day or so: https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656
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StanleyPain - 2016-11-11 Nah....the excuse doesn't work anymore. The "poor poor downtrodden idjuts who populate America just don't know no better so that's why they vote for the Republican party" thing just lost all meaning whatsoever.
Everyone who voted for Trump is an unmitigated piece of shit. Period. This wasn't some hail mary thing to fix some perceived inequality in America or whatever. It was people who are thoroughly awful. People who have no ability to see anything beyond their own tiny little worlds of fear and the occasional ability to *maybe* understand a political issue enough to be a single issue voter (on the wrong side, of course) It is people who have known FOR FUCKING DECADES about what an inept, cowardly, vengeful, babyman turd that Trump is even long before he got even close to the ballpark of politics. And they don't care. They want their voices to merge with that one and be what he is and what he speaks for, even though he speaks for no one really but himself and his own self-interest (which is pretty ironic considering). Trump supporters don't give a single shit about this country or other Americans, they just want to do harm to other people. Hate is their only guiding principle even if it means fucking themselves or their own family's future down the toilet and if you think they will have some revelation down the road about what they did for unfathomably stupid reasons, you are expecting way too much from sociopaths.
So yeah..the excuse of "I'm just doing what I think is best I is scared of da mean ol' economy" bullshit doesn't work at all anymore. Rural America is retarded as shit but at least they KIND OF have a sort-of excuse, willfully ignorant as it is. Everyone else is just a fucking fascist piece of shit who just wants to act out their grudges on society because, like Trump, they are also infantile morons with the general mentality and political capacity of schoolyard bullies who have grown upset with living in a world where schoolyard bullies are now treated like the embarrassments that they truly are.
Trump voters are angry they are perceived as total shitheads and instead of wondering why that is, they are just throwing their creamed veggies off the high-chair and proving that our perception is 100% correct because, uh, that'll show us I guess.
So as far as I'm concerned, it's fair game to just keep calling them out on their bigotry, ignorance, general state of willful stupidity and the fact that they are worthless. Because they are.
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bawbag - 2016-11-11 "Their jobs have been taken away. Their power has been taken away."
I don't buy that at all, look at the income/education/employment levels of the main white voters who voted for Trump. Sick of this meme that it was disenfranchised, uneducated working class or unemployed voters, nah it really wasn't. Check the exit polls.
50% of white college grad men voted Trump compared with 34% without college degrees.
45% of white college grad women voted Trump compared with 17% without a college degree.
According to estimates from the same exit polls and Census Bureau data, the average Trump supporter earns $72,000 a year which is substantially above the national median $56,000.
This was a vote in favour of white identity politics by just about any sensible analysis and it's typical of the centrist-left to ignore that and handwave away the fucking truth that is staring them right in the face.
It's also beyond absurd to view it in terms of simple economic concerns or the flaccid job market, or for that matter neoliberalism or globalism or any of the other bullshit theories the left are throwing around on their social media echo chambers right now.
It was a vote for the candidate who offered whites a clear chance to punch down any sort of step towards progress because they see society as zero-sum and thus 'SJWs, trannies, fags, women and darkies' can't possibly be given any quarter by them because this will mean 'they' have LESS power, less money or just less [insert whatever thing they value more than american lives].
As for the fucking 'hug a neonazi/white nationalist/far-right moron and don't call them things that are accurate but hurt their feelings' approach, yeah the left creating 'safe spaces' for the far-right always works out so well, and trying to bridge that gap totally worked for Hillary right?
What the left needs is to be the actual fucking opposition again, stop going for half-measures and trying to please everybody and appeal to your fucking base who've stopped voting altogether out of frustration at nothing but lipservice to progressive politics.
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15th - 2016-11-11 >>Yeah those of us in Da Big City look down on rural types, but it's not because they're less cultured or less educated.
Liar.
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Bort - 2016-11-11 We may make fun of the accent and call them stupid, but that's not what we have against them; mockery almost always involves calling the other person stupid, this shouldn't be news. But we wouldn't have anything against them if it weren't for the cruelty: the small-minded glee in finding someone different to pick on. You don't find people on the Left making fun of, say, Canadians because they don't have a reputation for cruelty.
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SolRo - 2016-11-11 and to confirm the cruelty, they day after two of them were sharing and cackling gleefully at pictures of sad democratic voters during election night.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2016-11-11 Some random thoughts from the days news.
1) David Duke has announced the Klan will be holding a celebration march for Donald Trump in North Carolina.
2) Every name floated for a cabinet position so far has had multiple wives/ affairs including the president himself. Except the woman suggested for Secretary of the Interior, who of course is Sarah Palin
3) Today Donald Trump met with Barack Obama. Obama is not a large man, and Donald is quite large physically, but the two of them sitting together was quite remarkable. Donald was hunched over, eyes wide, like a little kid who all of a sudden has to account for himself to his parents. Barack guided the whole presser, and did most of the talking, smoothing the way, like a dour parent. Donald looked very small indeed, sitting there. You should watch the clip, just to see him be humbled in this way. Whatever Barack said to him during the meeting, it made an impression.
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Bort - 2016-11-11 "and to confirm the cruelty, they day after two of them were sharing and cackling gleefully at pictures of sad democratic voters during election night."
I know I cackled at Republicans in 2008 and 2012, and I expect to be on the receiving end this time. We hate each other over ideology, that's how God intended us to be.
But it's not me and mine who immediately took to harassing minorities after winning in 2008 and 2012.
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Bort - 2017-11-23 The racist shitbags will never agree with decent people, let's not pretend that we can sweet-talk them into not being fucked-up mistakes of nature. And let's not pretend that they deserve any respect. If they ever change into actual human beings -- if -- we can reassess.
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The Mothership - 2016-11-11
This movie remains one of the most profound satires of American race relations. It is relevant today.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-11-11
Submitted because it was a funny clip that cheered me. Reading the response, I see that I am out of synch as usual.
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