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Desc:This looks painful.
Category:Military, Business
Tags:war, China, john pilger, Dartmouth Films
Submitted:Pillager
Date:12/18/16
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Mr. Purple Cat Esq.
Pilger has loads of docs. A bit like Noam Chomsky he definitely has an anti-US stance, but he is not as much of an intellectual as Chomsky, his films are sorta awkwardly plain, but they get the job done.

Also, most importantly, I think he and Chomsky and their ilk are essentially right. The US is definitely the most destructive, disruptive, and downright evil country on the planet, and has been for some time. Just to let ye yanks know, that is how a lot of people outside the US feel.
The US stance on carbon alone is enough to give it the top spot. As well as being the biggest emitter per capita by a huge margin, your government has also ignored and actively soured any international attempts to limit carbon for decades.
Cena_mark
This new regime certainly won't make climate concerns any better.

kingarthur
Trump's seemed to intentionally pick people who see China as a military threat for his cabinet and defense staff. Also, his phone call to Taiwan was not a good omen - more to the point: his response to being called out on it was not a good omen.

I'm not eager to see where this goes. The USA has zero hope of beating China in any ground or naval conflict.
blase
Is it too oversimplistic to surmise that Trump and his cronies think we need to manufacture a war in order to boost the economy as well as return America back to pre-Roosevelt times? (Teddy Roosevelt, that is) Make America a sweatshop nation again

Bobonne
Uh, dude, relax a little. America could beat China quite easily in any ground or naval conflict short of a total invasion (of China), which they could probably still accomplish, but at great cost). Plus, you know, no conflict is purely ground or naval, and America's air power is still pretty overhwelming (just like their naval power).

China knows this as well. They're fine with bullying their neighbors, because America hasn't cared enough to do anything about it. They also know that if they push too hard, they have enough nukes to take out some of their Asian neighbors (poor Japan), but would be utterly annihilated in turn.

The real risk there, of course, would be sparking other "non-involved" nations to launch their stuff too, like everyone's friends from Eastern Europe.

It's pretty concerning, naturally, that China's being governed by a paranoid weak man trying to look strong, and America's...getting Trumped. But it'll be okay.

Or, at least, non-apocalyptic.

Probably.

Old_Zircon
It's been apocalyptic since Reagan at least, it's just a slow-burn kind of apocalypse. Most of us will probably make it, but the generation being born right now is fucked.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/28/the-world- passes-400ppm-carbon-dioxide-threshold-permanently

SolRo
I suspect any open conflict with China (which would probably include Russia) would result in large swathes of American infrastructure and interwebs being destroyed by hackers within days.

As much as the US milindustry likes to thump its chest, I doubt too many high ranking people that would actually be at risk of dying on the front lines want to test if said billion dollar boondoggles work as well in real war as they do against target drones, mock attacks and goat herders on mopeds.

chumbucket
This movie looks ridiculous.
That guy
Given the trailer, this movie has to be a pro-China puff piece masquerading as an anti-US documentary.

Mr. Purple Cat Esq.
Thatguy is a true patriot who knows who his enemy is!

But seriously, Pilgers reputation is solid. He's been churning out cheapo docs like this for ITV for decades. Hes not very artful or subtle, and can be pretty basic, but hes certainly not anyones mouthpiece other than himself.

http://johnpilger.com/filmography

Eg. one of his last ones includeded a big criticism of the BBC and how their news has lost its journalistic impartiality, for example, they pulled stories on Israel / Palestine due to pressure from Israeli government.

http://johnpilger.com/videos/the-war-you-dont-see

Old_Zircon
To be fair, that's not new or unusual behavior for the news. Every modern war in the west has been heavily managed in the media with the exception of Vietnam, because that happened at an unusual period where the technology had outpaced warmakers' ability to manage it, but they figured things out by the end of the 70s, and honestly I'm probably overestimating the impartiality of the coverage of Vietnam because I wasn't alive to see that firsthand like everything that followed.


It has gotten progressively worse as the mass media has matured but it's not new.

Doc Victor
Oh my god dude are you citing the guys own website as evidence of his credibility?

Don't ever change, my stars that is too perfect

That guy
I'll rest my case on the trailer and Purple Cat, who was glad to applaud US civilian losses in the WTC attacks.

I'm sure he thinks that I'm incapable of being critical of the US because lord knows I've never been critical of the US on this very site dozens of times or anything.

China is an innocent nation of peace.

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