It's not okay to use violence against people with different political beliefs. In fact, the Nazis did that!
Sometimes it is okay though. Sometimes violence is the best thing to do.
John Holmes Motherfucker
You know what's okay? To enjoy that delicious clip of that unctuous piece of shit getting coldcocked in the middle of a literary discussion of Pepe the Frog. It's a guilty pleasure.
It's not okay to sucker punch people on the street.
I think that everyone must know this, yet it's too nuanced for the internet.
Exactly. This entire site is predicated on the existence of videos of events that should never have taken place, but we still enjoy watching the footage.
I can delight in the video of Richard Spencer getting punched, without thinking that punching him was the right thing to do.
That guy was just trying to knock the big chip off his shoulder
1. This is going to get people stabbed or shot.
2. Trump's retaliation for fiery, senseless riots will be horrific to behold.
Thanks Ctrl Left!
1. a nazi gets punched
2. senseless riots inevitably occur
2. the backlash of these riots will be on the left because
3. this singing strawman is a 100% totally accurate portrayal
Richard Spencer has less twitter followers than Flo from Progressive.
Punching is overrated.
fuck it, I'm starting to think the "kill whitey" people are right.
It's mildly surprising that there aren't more "kill whitey" people out there. James Baldwin nailed it long ago:
The American Negro has the great advantage of having never believed the collection of myths to which white Americans cling: that their ancestors were all freedom-loving heroes, that they were born in the greatest country the world has ever seen, or that Americans are invincible in battle and wise in peace, that Americans have always dealt honorably with Mexicans and Indians and all other neighbors or inferiors, that American men are the world's most direct and virile, that American women are pure. Negroes know far more about white Americans than that; it can almost be said, in fact, that they know about white Americans what parents—or, anyway, mothers—know about their children, and that they very often regard white Americans that way. And perhaps this attitude, held in spite of what they know and have endured, helps to explain why Negroes, on the whole, and until lately, have allowed themselves to feel so little hatred. The tendency has really been, insofar as this was possible, to dismiss white people as the slightly mad victims of their own brainwashing.
Go get a copy of Baldwin's "The Fire Next Time". It's honestly difficult to get through because you'll find yourself saying "whoa, I'm not going any further until I process this" on a regular basis. Published in 1963 and yet so much of it still holds up.
I don't see any way to be sympathetic to the plight of minorities, beyond in the most superficial self-serving way, without feeling an obligation to keep their interests front and center at all times. Yeah my interests matter too but I'm a straight white (formerly) Christian guy, this society already caters to me, my pissy little desires can probably wait.
Is this like a new fetish, where instead of imagining watching a black guy fuck your wife, you imagine him starting a race war and murdering you?
Don't pretend you aren't jerking off!
In any case, you do realize both of those things are exactly the same flavor of perverse racialist masturbatory fantasy, right?
If I was on Rosa Parks' bus, I would have gutted the driver.
I think you misunderstand us. Or at least me. (I can't speak for Bort.) Although I benefit from white privilege, I don't really feel any guilt for it. I'm disgusted by white culture and most individual whites. I don't really consider myself one of them. I'm not active in their shitty civil society, and I don't have any white friends anymore. (To be fair, though, my wife is white.)
No, I'm filled with derision for *you people*. But since I share the history (and the skin color), I'm forced to include myself in the group. But there isn't any kinship, nor is there much self-flagellation. I came to terms with my heritage, decided it's shit, and basically disowned it.
If I was being truly moral I would work day & night to fix what whites have done, but instead I mostly stare open-mouthed at whites' continued shittiness.
Well, it's good to know who the racists are.
Actually, it sounds like I got your number just right the first time.
|Binro the Heretic |
All the poor delicate little nazis trembling in fear at the idea of being punched.
I've kind of suspected for a while that these guys are cowards at heart, and they'd have no idea what to do if liberals and blacks and other people they hate took an active stand against them. I think we're starting to find out.
Yeah, we're 5 sucker punches, a stabbing and 30 memes away from a civil society.
Nice cognitive dissonance you fucking idiots (not you 15th).
"We have to punch nazis to prevent them from carrying out genocide"
"Aren't nazis just hilarious ineffectual cowards"
"Yeah man, totally."
For what it's worth, I don't believe in punching Nazis just for having bad ideas in their heads or even just for speaking them. But that doesn't stop me from detecting a yellow-bellied vibe in them.
|Mister Yuck |
I'm a liberal not a pacifist. Some people deserve to be punched. Good song though.
This would be what it's based on:
99% of the pussies advocating violence against "nazis" have never been in a fight.
If you think punching some racist moron will fix anything, you're wrong and you're just jacking off to the mental image of being able to hurt someone in some white knight fantasy.
You're no better than the gun carrying guys who fantasize about getting to use their gun on some terrorists or mugger.
Just admit you want to hurt someone and you're tired of being an impotent little bitch with no control over your life.
Good luck finding any. I'm sure you guys will find someone to settle on.
I'm Russian, I'm culturally obligated to punch nazis.
Just a bunch of scared, hateful, confused white people on one side who lost a cakewalk major election beating on and blaming a bunch of scared, hateful, confused white people on the other side who think they won one
if they're confused, I'll punch some sense into them.
if the punch makes them more confused, i'll keep punching until they stop being confused.
"Daddy, what's that beautiful patinated statue?"
"Those were anonymous men that bravely imagined punching people in 2017."
That's right nazis, there's no way to tell who wants to punch you!
it could be anyone! at any time! planting their fist into your bitch face of a waste of oxygen and carbon.
If you care to look you'll find there are actually quite a few statues all around the world dedicated to people who put Nazis in their place by whatever means were needed.
Strangely enough I have yet to find a monument to finger-wagging scolds who insisted all Hitler needed was a hug and cookie, but I'm sure they'll be building those any day now.
Two Jar Slave
Regardless of whether you've been in a fight, there is a weird tendency among urban liberals to fetishize violence, to talk about it in awed whispers, like some eldritch God they've never dared pray to, but maybe soon, maybe soon...
It's as though these folks believe that all this time they've been hesitant to use violence because of their high morality. They've been holding back. But, the truth is they don't use it because it doesn't won't get them what they want. We all know life isn't a piñata, yet I've had two progressive friends announce to me since Trump's shenanigans that they're no longer opposed to violent "resistance" of the new regime.
Great, good for you. So, what's the plan? How are you going to "use violence" to "resist" this new reality? What are the specific objectives, and how does hitting or shooting accomplish them? What will this look like? It's all so vague. Vague is comfortable because it remains a fantasy forever, or at most a way to blow off some steam.
I think the idea is to rhetorically prepare ourselves for a possibly-inevitable future where violence is necessary for survival. Calling people pussies for verbally acknowledging readiness to do violence is like calling someone a pussy for planning a BASE jump before actually doing it.
People seem to be taking the word "punch" much too literally. Do you really think we mean punch random people who disagree with us? No, "punching nazis" means "organized civil war against an equally-organized group that means to destroy our society."
We luckily haven't needed to think about these things for a long time, but things are changing. People are realizing that they might have to actually fight for shit, and it helps to talk about it beforehand, even if it sounds like grandstanding.
Two Jar Slave
I didn't call anyone a pussy; I said that without a meaningful and intelligent plan, discussions about this or that resistance tool are a self-soothing sideshow.
Protesters these days march and occupy and riot not to accomplish clear goals, but because they saw those actions in media describing a period of civil disobedience that no longer exists. Millions of women marched on Washington--to do what, exactly? Without a clear plan, protest actions are a cargo cult of cardboard images that, if you squint just right, resemble the tools once used by people who knew what they were doing. Violent resistance is the same, but even moreso because it's incredibly hard to pull off even by the most skilled and well-funded groups. It's not something you can wing, except in your imagination.
The people I'm describing aren't preparing for a base jumping. They're sitting around on futons saying, "Dude we should totally go bade jumping someday. I'd be awesome at that."
Two Jar Slave
I don't mean to be rude or dismissive, and I apologize for the ranting. I'm just frustrated by what I perceive as a lack of direction among smart, well-meaning people I know. Show me your plan!
You guys can't seriously believe Nazis are a well organized force that could threaten Western Democracy.
I think what you really mean is bash racists. And I think what you mean by that is - Republicans. I wouldn't be surprised if many of you think the majority of people that voted for Trump are crypto Nazis that may need to be put down. . Which makes you dangerous and dumb as shit.
There is no plan. The only thing these people are punching are their proverbial clowns, to the fantasy of wreaking righteous havoc on imaginary enemies.
It's almost similar to the silly video this thread is based on...
>>I wouldn't be surprised if many of you think the majority of people that voted for Trump are crypto Nazis that may need to be put down.
Actually, I would- that was an embellishment.
Oh man, however will I live with myself if I get called "intolerant" by a group of people who openly advocate for genocide.
Tell us about all the tough guy fights you've been in, namtar. Were they more Mortal Kombat-style blood-and-gore fests where the loser's heart is eaten by the winner, or were they more of a Michael Jackson Beat It-type deal where everyone kicked each other to the music? How many swords were involved?
Can I punch JonTron even though he may not be a Nazi? Before he outed himself as 'diet-coke-alt-right' the guy just was cringe inducing.
Er, I mean EVEN before he outed himself.
Punch yourself for commenting on this site like it's your Twitter feed.
When Cockalope Rapetwoyearolds stays up all night raping little boys and girls, as he does, he becomes a cranky baby! It ain't personal. He'll calm right down once he slides his misshapen micropenis into some mother's weeping child.
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