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Desc:When crafting a story, filmmakers make many decisions.
Category:Classic TV Clips, None
Tags:David Lynch, twin peaks, michael cera, dharma
Submitted:Two Jar Slave
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Louddetective - 2017-05-31
Andy and Lucy have been a bit rough for me in The Return, but personally I loved Wally Brando.
Two Jar Slave - 2017-05-31
I could do with 70% less Andy and Lucy, and I hated Wally Brando when he showed up.

Then I went back and watched his scene in isolation, and actually found it hilarious. It just had a limp lead-in on the show, I think, coming as a non-sequitur out of a more dramatic emotional scene.

Anyway, Michael Cera is on track to be this generation's Bill Murray.

Sputum - 2017-05-31
I almost think the scenes with the old characters like Andy, Lucy, and Hawk are outright making fun of reboots.

Who gives a shit about these old characters, there is new ground to be tread. You don't make something great by doing the same thing you did 20 years ago.

Scrimmjob - 2017-05-31
I, for one, would watch a Hawk based spin off show, he was always my favorite. I can't stand Cera but this worked for me.

Louddetective - 2017-05-31
Hawk was always one of my favorites too, so I'm thrilled to have him back. There are other characters I definitely don't care about as much; I don't really care what Nadine's been up to, for example. So far Andy and Lucy have been just about physically painful. I could see some of the stuff with the older characters being Lynch poking fun at reboots, though, and honestly I'm just thrilled to see Lynch getting to do whatever the hell he wants for 18 hours. The prospect of Twin Peaks without Donna-James teen drama, etc, is amazing. I've been floored by the Return so far.

StanleyPain - 2017-05-31
Thus far, the new TP has been a god damn dream come true for this Lynch fan. It's like Mulholland Drive 2 or something. It might very well be the last thing he makes, too, so I'm glad he's going out in this blaze of weird, weird glory.
Two Jar Slave - 2017-05-31
Agreed on all points, especially it being a follow-up to Mulholland Drive.

I've watched the Purple Room sequence like four times already. I'm so glad Lynch & co. didn't just recreate the familiar surreal images, but actually worked to come up with new material that is as intriguing and unsettling as the old stuff was back in the day.

Scrimmjob - 2017-05-31
Cooper's escape from the red room really felt like some kind of fucked up 90's point and click adventure game to me, in a good way.

infinite zest - 2017-06-01
I've only seen the first 2-hour episode so far (I'm watching for spoilers but honestly I don't care with Lynch) and I was reminded of the Blue Box during good Cooper's escape from the Red Room and into that Glass Box, and the Green Ring from Fire Walk With Me is probably the same key as the one the Hobo has to his box. Some of this has to do with the fact that I heard Mulholland Dr. was originally a continuation of Audrey's story though...

infinite zest - 2017-06-01
(actually speaking of colors, the Blue in Blue Velvet might mean something but I haven't seen the film for at least a decade. I just remember that lots of people thought that Jeffrey was a young version of Cooper. I'm pretty stoned right now

DavidBowiesLuckyTennisBall - 2017-05-31
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Louddetective - 2017-05-31
I wasn't sure what to expect, and was just cautiously optimistic, but it's knocked my socks off. Everything with Mr. C has been so chilling, the Purple Room was absolutely bananas, and the new stuff (the glass box!) has been tremendous. I also lost it when "Take Five" started coming in with Mr. Jackpots. The return of Cole and Albert has been fantastic, and just overall, I'm blown away by how great it is. I'm not a Lynch expert by any means, but as a big TP fan and having seen at least Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway, this seems like a synthesis of a lot of his work.
Louddetective - 2017-05-31
^^Reply to StanleyPain ^^

threerow - 2017-05-31
david lynch still killin it
Nikon - 2017-05-31
Everything about the Twin Peaks continuation works. The nods to the old characters are great, the new stuff is trippy and amazing, and I can't wait to see what Lynch is going to come up with next.
infinite zest - 2017-06-01
One thing I really like about this particular show is its use of technology. A show like Fargo or Better Call Saul will go out of its way to re-create what cellphones in 2006/10 were like vs. 2017, stuff like that, but Twin Peaks like reverse engineers that shit and everything looks more like how we probably would've IMAGINED it looking like 25 years ago. A good example of this is when Bob Cooper is on the computer. Despite a Windows OS it's very 90s looking, and it also makes for telephone conversations becoming stressful devices vs. the much more logical "go somewhere where Cooper's not and make a phone call" modern scenario. There's other examples scattered throughout what I've seen so far too, but it actually makes me feel like it's 25 years ago when I'm watching it, the only anachronism being that goddamn band at the end.

Nikon - 2017-06-01
Agreed. The tech is kinda retro-futurist in a good way.

Two Jar Slave - 2017-06-01
Do you guys just mean Mr. C's laptop, or are there other examples? Because when he pulled that thing out, to me it just looked like the prop director was out of touch.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-05-31
So far, I'm pretty disappointed with the New Twin Peaks, but that's me. I loved the original because of the way it opened up the standard soap opera format. At the most fundamental level, it was about a plot moving forward, and an unfolding mystery, and a whole lot of subplots.

If I keep watching this, and I certainly intend to, maybe I'll start to see this as a story, and not just as a series of beautifully photographed, painfully slow nonsense scenes.Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, an Wild at Heart all blew me away.They were amazing, important experiences. Lost Highway, Mullholland Drive, and Fire Walk With Me baffled and bored me half to death. And the thought of seeing Eraserhead again makes me feel a little nauseous. I had to force myself to watch these movies. But Lynch is so striking that if I have to force myself, that's what I'll do.

It's my conviction that if I can't enjoy or comprehend a David Lynch movie, it's my own fault. Lynch is not to be blamed. And maybe that's good. Maybe if art makes you doubt yourself, that's a perfectly legitimate and edifying way to interact with it.

Of course, DUNE really is a piece of shit.

I'd like to dedicate my stars to Catherine Coulson, the dying actress who played the dying log lady. Lynch has done a wonderful job of capturing the faces of aging actors reprising roles from 25 years ago.. They look tragic and beautiful.

Two things I'd love to see in the New Twin Peaks are

1) Lara Flynn Boyle as a plastic-surgery addicted Donna Hayward

2)Since Frank Silva is dead, I'll like to see Nicholas Cage make an appearance as Bob. A little too on-the-nose? I'd really love to see that! He'll catch you in his death-bag!

Oh, and it was so great to see David Duchovney back as Denise! .Attitudes have changed so much, it's hard to remember how original that character was. Like Johnny Depp in "Ed Wood", Duchovney looked pretty good in drag. Once upon a time, drag characters had to always look ridiculous, and they were always flamboyant. Duchovney, an actor who would become famous for his low-key approach, underplaying all his lines, was an inspired choice.

Sputum - 2017-05-31
I'd rewatch Mullholland Drive. I think that one is actually 'get'-able unlike lost highway or inland empire.

I saw Mullholland Drive as a teenager and thought it was pretty cool but I generally didn't really understand it. I watched it again a week or so ago and now I think it's up there with the best movies ever made.

Two Jar Slave - 2017-06-01
I agree that the season is, so far, worse off for lacking a central narrative to hang things on. I'm watching it as an anthology of vignettes, and I don't find it boring. Some of my friends say they're too bored to continue.

My bet is Cooper will develop through the stages of life from a toddler (Mr Jackpots) to a functional adult, and that's both the central story and "the return" of the title. We'll see!

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-06-01
You know, if I get bored, I'll just watch it in shorter segments

garcet71283 - 2017-06-01

15th - 2017-06-01
Definitely rewatch Mullholland Drive. The first time I saw it I wasn't sure what to make of it. Once you figure out the story, it's all there. It's a brilliant movie. I read something about it that "explained" it, but I wish I just would have rewatched it.

Report back.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-06-02
Four episodes in, I am completely on board. It started out in the weeds, and gradually moved into more familiar territory, but it's still a mess. Is that Cooper being held in a cell? Or is it Bob? Or Dougie? If it's Bob, is he eventually going to go all "HOW'S ANNIE?" on everybody's asses? And is he going to turn out be Nicholas Cage?

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-06-02
Correction: It's not a mess; it's a mystery. When do we get more?

15th - 2017-06-03
I didn't finished the original Twin Peaks. Details are hazy. I saw the first episode of the new season. Seems rad

NancyDrewFan123 - 2017-05-31
This is the funniest shit I've seen all year.
Juice Eggs McKenna - 2017-06-01
Cameo??! I wanted him to be a major character!

And what's the deal with Max Perlich? Please don't let that be the last we'll see of him in this show!!
Juice Eggs McKenna - 2017-06-01
Also just want to add: Andy was brilliant in this scene - five stars!

garcet71283 - 2017-06-02
I lost it at "Cauc-ase-ians"
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-06-02
It may be obvious to everyone, but I don't think anyone mentioned it, so let me be the one to point out that it's a pretty safe bet that Wally's biological father is almost certainly NOT Andy, but Richard Tremaine, the pretentious fop that banged Lucy on a display bed in the showroom of Horne's Department store. The Owls are not always what they seem... but then again, sometimes they are.
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