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Tags:star trek, Oblivion, Kirk, Spock, Skyrim
Submitted:zurf
Date:08/13/17
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Hazelnut - 2017-08-13
Anyway, if Trump continues to wink and nod at the KKK and similar white nationalist 'deplorables', at what point is he morally complicit in the outright murder of American citizens?

Well frankly I'd say we're well past that point, so maybe the question is at what point to Republicans who aren't completely lost stand up and declare that they're sick of this shit?
Nikon - 2017-08-13
"'Unite the Right' is just like the movements on the left that present themselves as mainstream but are led by fringe radical kooks. Fringe radical kooks gain legitimacy by inserting themselves into the leadership of more mainstream movements. That's why a cause as mainstream as 'yay women' champions Peaceful Death Cult of Peace cultists like Linda Sarsour, or radical terrorists such as Assata Shakur and Rasmea Odeh. These fringe figures scam others into supporting them by adopting mainstream-sounding titles. Don't fall for it."

Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2017-08-13
I think we need another site for such discussions along the lines of 'Portal of uneducated US boors discussing their shitty country of idiots internal bullshit'
:)

Nikon - 2017-08-13
C'mon, you can help keep this thread going by inserting some strongly worded comment that has nothing to do with the video.

tesla_weapon - 2017-08-13
*yawn*

Oscar Wildcat - 2017-08-13
Hey, Kirk finally discovered a world where the women do in fact look and act just like men. Do you think she's gonna rape Kirk?

How'd I do, Nikon? I'm trying to straddle the gap here.

StanleyPain - 2017-08-13
The second that Trump put people in his administration who are literally Nazis (Steven Miller, Sebastian Gorka, Steve Bannon) I would say that was the moment of complicity.

Nominal - 2017-08-13
Is Kirk Trump in this clip?

Bort - 2017-08-13
The male of her species, at 0:46:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4mBbTUDq0#t=46s
duck&cover - 2017-08-14
Awkward silence, or just limited animation?
BiggerJ - 2017-08-14
Poe's Law: you'll never know if it was a joke.

Bort - 2017-08-14
It really needs a Ray Smuckles smile at the end, like with this clip:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=82980

SolRo - 2017-08-14
It can be both

Bort - 2017-08-15
Prior to "Star Trek", Gene Roddenberry's biggest gig was writing for "Have Gun - Will Travel". I am sad to report that the worst episodes of HGWT are generally the Roddenberry episodes, in that his handling of women is poor even by the standards of other writers. If he's not depicting them mouthy broads who need to learn to shut up so they can get a husband, they are silent passive creatures who exist for Paladin to partake of like free samples at the grocery store.

I'll be watching an episode of HGWT and someone says the most sexist thing I ever heard, and I say to myself, "yep, Roddenberry episode". (Then I look it up on IMDB just to make sure, and I'm usually right.)

All of that said ... as a rule I don't buy the "man of his time" argument; slaveowners may have been men of their time, but they were also recognized as monsters by their contemporaries, so they don't get a pass. But I think Roddenberry was often trying to write strong, admirable women, but he had too many notions that we recognize today as misguided. Think of his original "Star Trek" crew, with Number One (logical ice princess who secretly fantasized about Captain Pike) and Number Two (not as smart but unusually powerful feminine drives) -- that was Roddenberry doing his level best to write women in a better future, and they're downright embarrassing.
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