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dairyqueenlatifah - 2017-09-15

It's not only happening to video game shit though, it's happening to a lot of stuff. But I completely agree with you, I feel nothing but schadenfreude toward these people who thought they could ride this gravy train forever with no backup plan in place.

Only one starring because this video is boring.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2017-09-15

Not as boring as your mom

dairyqueenlatifah - 2017-09-16

You make a fair point.

I would give you my other four stars now if PoeTV would allow edits.

Meerkat - 2017-09-15

Isn't this a dupe? I seem to recall some other guy ... oh wait, maybe he was telling the other whiners to stop whining?

Goddammit these people with their pointless and annoying blather just put me into amnesiac ennui fugues.

cognitivedissonance - 2017-09-16

Five beautiful stars watching them fall. The best part is they can't get unemployment.

Jeriko-1 - 2017-09-16

Jesus, it's not the apocalypse. Just don't swear like a sailor when you are gaming and you'll be fine. You can manage that, right?

Born in the RSR - 2017-09-16

The only reason people watch it is so they can see him swear and freak out in a comically over the top manner.

It's a catch 22.

Chancho - 2017-09-16

Make stuff for kids and you can still make boatloads of money. Just read the adsense guidelines.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-09-16

Or you can do what movie and TV creators have been doing forever. Be creative. Come up with some real jokes.

Ugh - 2017-09-16

let's do our best to keep youtubers out of the modern day work force, god bless

memedumpster - 2017-09-16

Making money while entertaining others makes me sad about compromising my own life into a shit serfdom job that I can't feel superior about, so I want you to have to be on the dole to survive so I can hate you for that instead.

I am goddamned hypocrite and a terrible person.

SolRo - 2017-09-16

Try having a productive job you can feel superior about AND look down on these drama queens at the same time. It's great.

The vast majority of them are the gaming equivalent of "housewives of..."

William Burns - 2017-09-16

That's what Patreon is for. Until universal income is a thing, you have to find someone who is willing to give you money for what you are doing.

15th - 2017-09-16

Every month, all PoeTv users kick in $5 to a lottery. We could take turns having free rent for month. Can you IMAGINE?

SolRo - 2017-09-16

I don't think there's enough active users for a weeks stay at a motel 6

Gmork - 2017-09-17

I'm down. Put me in for $20. I got a new job.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-09-16

I d8idn't watch the video, but I read the comments

>>>Pally, as this stands right now, yourself, and thousands of content creators have a pretty strong anti trust case on your hands.

´╗┐That's insane. This isn't coming from youtube, it's coming from advertisers. You can't force advertisers to pay for advertising they don't want.

We know what happened here. People started cranking out ugly shit, and the market was set up to reward that. If you could get automatically get views by creating a hate video about Anita Sarkeesian, you could get more views by cranking out 30 or 40 of them. The antifeminist, gamer-gaters and alt-right would never get tired of jerking each other off, and you could always get a fight going in the comments.

I still think it was the campaign against Ghostbusters that brought the hammer down. I remember arguing with Evil Homer about that. Homer said that I was obsessed with that movie, but I didn't make a video a day about this. That was Mundane Matt. But I'll concede the point, because it doesn't matter. Forget about my alleged obsession with an innocuous popcorn movie. Forget about whether the movie was any good.

The only thing that matters is the money. It was a hundred million dollar movie, and because the opening weekend has become so all-important, i really do believe that the angry youtubers hurt it considerably. They may have brought down an intended franchise. Trust me, the whole advertising industry noticed this. They're not going to willing let these boys do that again, and they're certainly not going to pay for it.

tesla_weapon - 2017-09-17

I hear you JHMF, but I think the youtube economy is a ridiculous thing. Google have publicly stated that they lose money on it, which in part aligns with your point that advertisers think it is a waste of time. However, I also think Google make the most money (from all apps) from marketing research, and the metadata from youtube views and the revenue it generates might not be included in Google's public statement that Youtube runs at a loss.

I think we need streaming apps, and at the moment, that is youtube in part, and twitch, and whoever else is trying to get onboard. But, there was a discussion I read here on poe about musicians records not making any money, someone comparing baseball players' contracts, and the place of unions and lack thereof as to why artists get paid so little. Even spotify is a joke as far as paying musicians goes, though I love using it nearly everyday.

I think a subscription model is the way to go, but I think the way it pays content creators needs to change. It's easy for a streaming app to charge me $10-$15 AUD a month (or more) and just track what percentage of which content I watch, and pay out the creators accordingly, maybe like royalties work but much more precise, AND you can still gather metadata and make revenue from that too, AND you can force viewers to watch adverts.

I think the huge problem is which streaming app do you subscribe to if content becomes exclusive to one app or the other, and like I said, I think this is a huge problem. Maybe this is where a union can help for both the content creators and the streaming services.

Gmork - 2017-09-17

The spin I heard was that they loved the shitshow because "no press is bad press" was still something they gave credit to. Probably right about it destroying a potential franchise, and I'm fine with that, based on the 2016 movie. It needed to die.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-09-17

I love the 2016 movie, but I don't think it needs a sequel.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-09-17

>>>I hear you JHMF, but I think the youtube economy is a ridiculous thing. Google have publicly stated that they lose money on it, which in part aligns with your point that advertisers think it is a waste of time.

That wasn't my point at all. My point was that after that debacle, advertisers were going to want to want more power to influence content.

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