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Desc:DS9 is the best tv show since The Wire.
Category:Classic TV Clips, Religious
Tags:star trek, religion, DS9, deep space nine, Steve Shives
Submitted:William Burns
Date:09/18/17
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Bort
I've always liked Major Kira for setting a good example of how a religious person SHOULD try to use her religion to inform her choices. I am not very impressed with the way most people try to live their faith -- primarily when it's convenient and makes them feel holier-than-thou -- but there are also a few people out there who try to use their religious beliefs to better themselves and their world, and I dug Major Kira for doing that. Sisko was the reverse of Dukat, and Kira was the reverse of Wynn.
garcet71283
Unfortunately, for the majority of the show, I found Kira completely insufferable.

Bort
I can understand that perspective too.

Bobonne
I'm fairly sure that Kira was supposed to inspire a lot of feeling toward her as a character, be it insufferability or affection, and they were probably (including Nana herself) intentionally going for it being both at the same time in different people, even.

I mean, say what you will about her, but she's no wallflower, and apathy isn't in the cards for most people when it comes to her.

garcet71283
In truth, all the Bajorans except Wynn made me want the Cardassians to get back to jackbooting their asses. There's just something about their "universal stand-in for oppressed people" act that made me like the oppressors.

Bort
The Bajorans really were the dumbest people in the universe, and I haven't forgotten about the Pakleds.

American politics demonstrates we still don't know what the floor on stupid is.

Bobonne
So, I don't read the comments on most youtube videos, but I happened to take a gander at them here (despite youtube making it far harder to do so for home PC viewers, I don't know what mobile is like, with their new UI update), and...not only are they now only displaying the top comment in a thread of replies, rather than three or four, but they also seem to be actively hiding comments, as well.

I'll see '8 replies', click it, and get 3. 11, and get 5. 3, and get none.

Is this just me? Am I taking crazy pills here? I get that youtube comments are actively contributing, on average, on the whole, to making a worse world, so I shouldn't care about this too much, but...what the hell?

Also, good video.
exy
That's just the chemtrails doing their thang

StanleyPain
The problem with using DS9 as a metaphorical comparison to the real world is that in DS9 the Prophets are a measurable, real thing that actually exists. The Bajorans see them as gods, the Federation sees them as aliens, but they are actually there and they exhibit real powers over the real world that we can see function with our own eyes (opening and closing the wormhole, for example) and their predictions come true with reasonable accuracy. So, religious worship of the Prophets is, at least on some basic level, not a delusion or irrational. They are actually real and their existence is falsifiable and testable.

In the real world, there is no evidence whatsoever on even the most simplistic level that Gods are real or have any measurable effect on the universe and nothing the Gods are supposed to be capable of doing is testable by any realistic way, so tolerance of a complete unscientific belief system that can't stand up to even the scrutiny of a 5 year old's questions really shouldn't be tolerated in any way and deserves no tolerance.
Hazelnut
Not only is there no proof of any religious claims, there's enormously extensive and persuasive evidence that it's all made up. In religions of more recent provenance we have the actual records of people making them up!

The major religions are like Trump: evey time they make a claim you can pin them down to, whether factual or ethical, they turn out to have been lying. Then they turn around and say "ah, but look at all these claims you can't totally disprove because I was ambiguous about what I meant. That means I'm right!"

Fuck em.

MurgatroidMendelbaum
"Jesus, if you're going to explain it to death, why even bother?"
dairyqueenlatifah
Oh for fucks sake, Shives is getting shilled here now?
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