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Desc:Carrie Fisher is not only merely dead. She's really most sincerely dead.
Category:Horror
Tags:Star Wars, Carrie Fisher, uncanny valley, rogue one, Happy Life Day
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
Date:09/27/17
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Comment count is 26
Old_Zircon
Is there a way that people can legally prevent this from being done with their likeness after they die?

There should be.
Old_Zircon
Credit where credit's due, though. It's a testimony to the improvements in facial motion capture that the uncanny valley effect is even worse in the still preview image than it is in the actual video, and it wasn't long ago that it was usually the opposite.

SolRo
they still cant get around the 'actor wearing someone else's face' effect.

Old_Zircon
Right, but at least it finally doesn't look like the lipsync was done with a 3d Studio Max plugin from 1998.

garcet71283
She died after this was made, so moot point here.

Now Episode 9....hoo-boy

infinite zest
Kinda sounds like that movie 'The Congress', which kinda loosely adapted a Stanislaw Lem book of the same name: The girl from 'Princess Bride' (let's forget that Robin Wright Penn has remained a pretty A-listy actor over the past two decades) is a washed-up aging has-been and sells herself over to a digital format controlled by stupid movie execs, she has to watch herself sell herself out.

cognitivedissonance
Disney is pretty serious about owning the likeness of anybody in their movies, a trick they learned from George Lucas. There will be CGI Robert Downey Jrs. until the copyright is rendered meaningless at some point in the mid-22nd century.

GQ
Yeah, she died 11 days after this came out, so there wasn't a ghoulishness about using it at the time

dairyqueenlatifah
Eh, I'm not seeing the uncanny valley effect here, at least not in motion. Then again they went out of their way to make the screen time where we see her face extremely brief, and I imagine that's part of the reason why. I thought that what they did with Grand Moff Tarkin was pretty remarkable. I didn't realize until after the fact that I was seeing CGI and not an actual actor who looked a lot like Peter Cushing.

I think Rogue One is only the fifth worse Star Wars film and that it gets way more hate than it deserves.
garcet71283
I'm in the camp that feels they should just recast the characters, if they must be in at all.

I would agree with the ranking, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

SolRo
If you don’t notice how her mouth looks wider than it should be when she smiles then you need some glasses, old man!

John Holmes Motherfucker
Needs a "Disney Princess" tag.

Louddetective
Everyone I talked to who didn't know Peter Cushing was dead just thought Tarkin's scenes had weird lighting, which is pretty impressive. I definitely though Leia looked more off, but it wasn't too awful.

BHWW
Honestly, I thought the CGI Peter Cushing had a more unpleasant, unreal appearance.
Maggot Brain
At lest your brain is given time to adjust to CGI Peter Cushing. They just kind of throw Leia in there, almost like they forgot about her.

duck&cover
Force ghosts are all scary and shit.
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Quad9Damage
I mean, it doesn't look like complete shit, except when you pause it and it looks like they've applied too much makeup. Ten years is a long time to improve after Beowulf. The worst thing in this clip is the obviously CG Tantive IV.

Of course, live actors wearing dead people's skin on their faces is what pushes this into uncanny valley territory.
Quad9Damage
It makes sense now.

Kyle Katarn and his gal-pal Jan beamed *fake* Death Star plans to Tantive IV. It explains why that level lacked in any real security.
cognitivedissonance
THE EXTENDED UNIVERSE IS FORBIDDEN AND THE JEDI COUNCIL HAS DECLARED ANY APPRENTICE MEDDLING IN FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE A HERETIC TO BE JUDGED BY THE OUTCOME OF TRIAL BY KAL-IF-FEE.

garcet71283
In all seriousness though, how hard would it have been to simple use the names of Jan Ors (Jyn Ersu is already really close) and Kyle Katarn. They already have written back in other EU characters (Thrawn) in canon material.

All I could figure was that a female Asian lead didn't focus group well enough for the new demographics.

cognitivedissonance
The villain of Rogue One was clearly Thrawn in the first draft. There's no other excuse.

John Holmes Motherfucker
It was an unfortunate moment for a false note, and the freshness of Carrie Fisher's death made it sad rather than hopeful. On the other hand, her return to the role in Episode 7 was a great comfort. She and Harrison Ford were so very good together, light years ahead of the "laser-breath" banter of the original trilogy.

We love you, Carrie. (She knows.)
memedumpster
If you were a starving refugee in a war torn future beset by killer rubber and flesh wearing robots, none of the Rogue One cgi characters would get through the outer perimeter checkpoints of your territory. Chihuahuas and smart phones could detect them.

It takes serious blinders to see them as anything other than horrific real doll knockoffs. Not just the human cgi puppets either, some of the "not-Gungan" aliens (Akbarians?) have no subsurface scattering on their shaders and it looks like 1997 Sci Fi Original fx.

This movie does not deserve any praise for anything. The prequels did a lot of things better than this.
Meerkat
Still. Would.

Robin Kestrel
I have a problem with facial recognition, and I am also bad at spotting CGI, so this looked normal to me.
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