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The Mothership - 2017-10-05

Where does one even start with shit like this?

Chicken the Did - 2017-10-05

By imagining the soothing mental image of a cast iron skillet hitting her upside the head. With a cartoon KKLONNK! sound folyed in.

memedumpster - 2017-10-05

By taking the top off the bottle, then pushing the shot glass away.

kamlem - 2017-10-05

Kind of lazy for the article to not define mass shooting in regards to its statistics. From the newsweek link you need to click 2 hyperlinks to find out.

"Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases. (It is important to note that there have been many similar indiscriminate gun rampages—resulting in fewer fatalities—that would otherwise be included in our dataset.) In January 2013, a mandate for federal investigation of mass shootings authorized by President Barack Obama lowered that baseline to three or more victims. Accordingly, we include attacks dating from January 2013 in which three or more victims died. Our original analysis, which covers cases with four or more victims killed from 1982-2012, follows below. The cases we have documented since then using the revised federal baseline reaffirm our major findings."

Of course, since this idiot could not be bothered to take her face out of her feedbag to click 2 links, she probably should not be criticising others on reading comprehension and critical analysis.

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-05

Here's the thing.

The article really is racist as shit, because it immediately goes into full speculation mode about the psychological motivations behind mass shooters.

“There’s a feeling of entitlement that white men have that black men don’t," criminologist James Alan Fox told The Washington Post in 2012. "They often complain that their job was taken by blacks or Mexicans or Jews. They feel that a well-paid job is their birthright. It’s a blow to their psyche when they lose that. . . . If you’re a member of a group that hasn’t historically experienced unemployment, there’s a far greater stigma to [losing a job] than those who have."

Which is arguably somewhat true, at least among some segments of the white population. Connecting it with mass shootings just because a few shooters have experienced some kind of failure before their crimes... it seems kind of spurious.

Is it really any different than, in the wake of a police shooting, writing some article about how the ones black people should really be worried about are other black people and using the statistics to back that up? They superficially support that idea, if you ignore everything else harder to quantify. That's why racists use them.

But yeah, she's obnoxious and I don't think it's a stretch to say her heart's not in the right place... but the article is kinda fucked up.

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-05

What I find more offensive, though, is just the glut of superfluous news coverage whenever one of these things happens. Speculation way out of left field like this, whether or not the brother or gf saw it coming, and things like that.

It seems like really poor taste to me to try and cover the absence of available information with wild theories and nonsensical garbage. If there really is a clamor for more info, then the story should really be putting pressure on investigators to release it.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-05

>>>The article really is racist as shit, because it immediately goes into full speculation mode about the psychological motivations behind mass shooters.

>>>“There’s a feeling of entitlement that white men have that black men don’t," criminologist James Alan Fox told The Washington Post in 2012. "They often complain that their job was taken by blacks or Mexicans or Jews.

Why are you making a point about a recent tweet in Newsweek by citing the Washington Post in 2012?

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-05

The greatest possible example of white people feeling entitled is what they consider to be oppression. Here we have a tweet by Newsweek showing white people in an unflattering light. Big fucking deal.

As a white male, I have been misjudged and discounted by angry feminists and arrogant SJWs based on my race and my gender. It happens. I've been discounted, and disrespected, and I don't like it. It's not right. But it happens to people who are not white males all the time, and worse. With more black men in prison now than were slaves in the antebellum south, and for drug offenses that white people tend to get away with, and women regarded as a novelty, as God's afterthought, as persons of limited utility, bitching about how terrible it is to be white and male is just embarrassing for the rest of us.

When people treat you badly for being white and male, take a moment to feel that thinking, and think about what it's like for other people. Welcome to the human race, bitch.

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-05

This lady responded to a tweet from Newsweek linking to an article with that headline.

That quote is in the article, reprinted from a different article from 2012. It's from 3 days ago.

The headline of the article is really a clickbait injection routine to get that quote from 2012 out there. I don't find it troubling because I'm some kind of snowflake or whatever. I find it troubling because some hack concocted an evil racist bullshit article based on some social media trending themes with a dash of current events to profit from mindless hatred...

...and it works on people.

The irony is that the statistics used in the article conclusively disprove it's headlines proposition.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-06

"all which, sir, though I most powerfully and potently believe, yet I hold it not honesty to have it thus set down;"
Hamlet, Act 2, scene 3

>>The headline of the article is really a clickbait injection routine to get that quote from 2012 out there. I don't find it troubling because I'm some kind of snowflake or whatever. I find it troubling because some hack concocted an evil racist bullshit article based on some social media trending themes with a dash of current events to profit from mindless hatred...

Oh come on.

To make generalized statements about "white people" is certainly offensive, but I suspect a criminologist would be talking about white offenders vs. black offenders.

I'm not convinced that it's not true that white people in the US, anyway have a sense of entitlement, and yes, I am including myself in that, but I don't think you can prove it, so you shouldn't say it, at least without a little qualifying.

I don't approve of the drubbing you've gotten in here. I don't think you're a white supremacist, Monkey, or at least I still think there's hope for. I think this stuff is genuinely offensive, and I think you're sensitive to that. It's nothing compared to what other groups have endured, and I
now take these things as an opportunity to understand what that means... but I'm in my late 50s, it's taken me my whole life to get this perspective.

I now have this deep empathy for women. I feel like I get them now. It's great, but it would have been even more useful back when I could count on an erection.

Spike Jonez - 2017-10-06

Oh, the fragile nazi is so entitled, he doesn't think white entitlement exists.

bawbag - 2017-10-06

Moldy Lardoregon is 100% a nazi sympathiser JHM, look at his fucking comments ffs, count how many goddamn times he openly defends their bullshit on here or engages in whataboutery/false equivalence about antifa or whoever made his titties rage jiggle this week.

It's textbook 4chan poisoning nazi symp shit and patently obvious once you ditch the middleschool debate club crap that passes for analysis here and just LOOK at what he says and how often.

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-06

Do you think that's more or less obvious than how much of a fucking psycho you are?

You still have yet to engage anyone on any of these topics you feel so strongly about as far as I can tell, and lately your tactics seem to revolve around following me around the site and calling me fat.

If you want to believe I'm a "Nazi defender", then I can't stop you... but man, you know people can see you, right?

I mean, honestly, who the fuck are you to be calling anybody an immature 4chan troll?

bawbag - 2017-10-06

Great comeback there guy-who-literally-defends-nazis-in-every-nazi-thread.

"NUH U!" 😂😂😂😂

bawbag - 2017-10-06

Highlights of Moldy Lardoregon's nazi symp 4chan posting

Being a homophobic asshole
(it's cool guys, it's only irony except when it's not)

Being a transphobic asshole

Blacks are the 'real racists' durrr

Or maybe it's Indians?

Asian Doc dragged off plane is 'race baiting' maybe he's the 'really real racist?'


Guy who gets his porn from 4chan

Nazi defending, muh antifa, both siiiiides

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-06

Well, I've clearly won here.

The only thing I even remotely feel the need to defend is calling you a faggot. You see, I wouldn't call an actual thinking feeling human being that... but you're neither so it's ok.

bawbag - 2017-10-06

If by 'won' you mean 'proved Bawbag's point' then yeah, you did, thanks fatass! 😊

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-07

I don't want to judge Monkey Napoleon to be a white supremacist, because he's fun during the Monday Night movies, and because judging people to be racist does not facilitate communication. "You're right, I can see now that I'm a bigot, and need to rethink my views", said no one, at any time whatsoever.

When I think the Monkey Man is wrong about matters of race and gender... which I often do--- my moral responsibility is to not go along, to voice my disagreement, on a case by case basis.

15th - 2017-10-05

4 seconds.

TheyUsedDarkForces - 2017-10-05

10 seconds

garcet71283 - 2017-10-05

7 seconds

yogarfield - 2017-10-05


tesla_weapon - 2017-10-05

Hey, come on! She makes a valid point about most people not reading shit properly and posting boring, uninciteful, vacuous shit online.

tesla_weapon - 2017-10-05

Shit, did I just type "uninciteful"? I'm really tired, and a little drunk, and the irony of my comment is not beyond me...

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-06

I'm sure you meant "unenciteful".

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2017-10-05

She obviously does not get enough anal at home.

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-05

This also.

Do we have DOJ statistics on how many shitty twitter posts are made by white housewives that aren't getting the recommended level of anal?

matlock - 2017-10-05

LF Celine
1 day ago
I am a handsome, straight white male with a family, job and conservative political leanings...I am public enemy #1...privileged to say that.

1 day ago
Sometimes it really feels like arguing with someone that has a psychosis or some kind of disorder. Talking to a leftist about race is like talking to a Scientologist about Lord Xenu. Many of them just shut down cognitively and the lizard brain kicks in.

1 day ago
Not to mention the victims of this mass shooting where white... and the shooter was most likely a Democrat because he had a Filipino wife.

chumbucket - 2017-10-05

She doesn't say anything useful and therefore nothing happens.

15th - 2017-10-05

Jangbones really goes into the trenches. Godspeed.

jangbones - 2017-10-05

my subscription list is obscene

I've been waiting for Wife With a Purpose to pay off for weeks, and she sure did

yogarfield - 2017-10-05

I'm the same way jangs. I've begun to just ask myself "Why do I slog through all of this. POE is dead, and my friends just think it's annoying."

tesla_weapon - 2017-10-05

Respect to the hardcore denizens of evil. I love poetv, keep it coming.

memedumpster - 2017-10-05

Jang never stops being the Yul Brenner to our Robert Vaughn.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-05

What if I were to tell you that, according to DOJ figures for a recent year (I think it was 2014) 92 per cent of all murder convictions are given to ONE PARTICULAR GENDER? I want to keep this argument as abstract as possible, so I won't name the gender. Okay, it's male.

According to the FBI, In 2015, the estimated number of murders was 15,696. In the last Census, the number of males was 151.8 millions. So that's a little more that 1 murder for every 10 thousand male persons.

So even if most murders are done by males, murders are rare enough so knowing that information will tell us something about the typical murderer, but nothing about the typical male.

Now, I'm assuming that this what this dumb cunt in the video doesn't understand that is "mass shootings" denotes a very specific type of murder that is being measured separately from "gang violence".

So if most "mass shootings" are done by white males, that information may tell us something about mass shooters. It doesn't tell us anything about white males, since

If most "gang" murders are done by non-white males, that may tell us something about gang murders. It tells us nothing about non-white males.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-06

Politifact judges this one "MOSTLY TRUE"

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/ne wsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/

Monkey Napoleon - 2017-10-06

I tried to say above what's in that politifact entry.

Essentially, if you go with the 54% number they're using, white men are actually statistically under-represented in the perpetration of mass shootings. The expert they consulted is using a different statistic he feels is more accurate that lines up pretty closely with ethnic distribution in the general population... which I have no reason to question.

Either way, the Newsweek articles suggestion that "white entitlement" causes white people to disproportionately cause mass shootings just isn't supported by either set of numbers.

Of course, if you're of the "everything ever is all the time racism" mindset... then yeah, you're going to reject this conclusion.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2017-10-06

I refuse to read the fucking article, because i reject out of hand the idea that the actions of maybe one in 50 thousand white men has anything to teach us about the other 49,999.

if you're a man, you automatically have something in common with the vast majority of murderers, but whether you're a man or a woman, black or white, the odds in favor if you NOT being a murderer are overwhelming. Certainly, a plurality of mass shooters are white males, and if a criminologist says that these cases have to do with a feeling of entitlement, that seems like a reasonable hypothesis. But that doesn't necessarily mean that all the many many white man who are not criminals are somehow tainted.

There's a lot that's stupid about this discussion, but the stupidest part just may be that certain idiots on the internet want to argue about race, when gender is a much more reliable predictor of violence, even if it's not really a reliable predictor either.

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