Sivak - 2017-12-20
Did everyone forget what the U in UFO stands for?
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-12-20 Well what do you think it is?
The pilot was interviewed by the Washington Post. He claimed he was sent out there to see what his controllers had been tracking for some time, objects ascending and descending from 80000ft to 20000ft and then disappearing off the scope. So he shows up on the scene, and there at the water is this thing about the size of his Hornet, shaped like a tic-tac, popping around like a helicopter. It takes off, he pursues, and this was the footage. There is a second clip where the pursuit breaks off. He's flying at about half the speed of sound and following on a ballistic path, then the object executes a 90 degree turn to the left, breaking the weapons lock entirely and eluding the pilot.
On that clip, he switches the targeting scope from infrared to optical, and there isn't any plume or heat signature from the object's engines. Mansplain that one to me, please.
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Zoot42 - 2017-12-20 A bug in the tracking programs?
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Mister Yuck - 2017-12-20 So, the reason all this made the news is that Luis Elizondo, the chubby funster sporting the kicking goatee at 0:57, had left the government and is raising money for a for-profit UFO research company. I can't explain the pilot's experience, but I'm gonna take all this with a huge grain of salt.
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Zoot42 - 2017-12-20 It's not like I'm saying aliens aren't possible, I'm just saying that claims like this should be given a lot of skepticism, especially when it appears on cable news which is always in a race to be first.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-12-20 I see, there is this somewhat smarmy website promoting the material. If you go there, you'll find more verbal accounting from the witnesses. It's an interesting story.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-12-21 I think these two clips are supposed to _be_ the substantiation. The only claim that needs to be proved is if they are in fact declassified footage from that day's events. This should not be a hard thing to ascertain. But yes, I'm not aware that it's been done yet and the whole thing could be an elaborate hoax. Given some of the people involved, I kind of doubt that. If there is a problem, it's not lack of good faith, it's lack of tangible evidence. This ain't bad though, if it's real data. Anyone have a spare Raytheon ATFLIR users/service manual?
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-12-21 Hey, the good people at Raytheon have been prevailed upon, and did reply thusly. about their tech. and the clips.
https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/uap_atflir.html
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Oscar Wildcat  - 2017-12-20
Hey, leave it to CNN to make a story about the pentagon releasing gun camera footage of an actual UFO about some alleged corruption at Harry Reid's office. I mean, what kind of crazy nonsense is spending some money to study extraterrestrial life that is buzzing around the West Coast unimpeded? And this should fall to the airforce? Even more insane!
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Meerkat - 2017-12-20
If there were aliens advanced enough to travel between the stars for shits and giggles they could really fuck up our shit if they wanted to.
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chumbucket - 2017-12-20
Operation S.L.U.S.H.
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Louddetective - 2017-12-20
Part of me is saying, "sure it's unexplained, but where's the non-ballistic motion? This looks tame." Another part is saying "sure, release some UFO footage to distract from the garbage fire government." A third, lesser part is saying "those pesky ultraterrestrials are at it again!" Somewhere off in the distance, a tiny part is saying, "Of course Robert Bigelow is involved..."
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decoy - 2017-12-20
We've got ground-based and orbital telescopes that can study the chemical compositions of celestial bodies across the galaxy, yet our ET friends, advanced enough to have broken the lightspeed barrier, can't even remotely observe us in a way that's not detectable? Makes no logical sense. Why would they even need to enter our atmosphere? Interstellar thrill-seekers maybe?
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Chicken the Did - 2017-12-20
Unfortunately I can't get past the fact that in order for effective interstellar travel you would need to drop your mass to nothing and then somehow KEEP GOING until you were at negative mass. Essentially shifting yourself out of the fucking universe for your travel duration. Unless you want to sort of have a really long trip. Which would be fine if you at the level of sending out a Van Neuman probe. But anything made of meat with an expiration date? Yeah, nah.
PS: What I just said is probably full of holes but actual physicists dropped the mic on warp speed a long time ago and can explain it a hell of a lot better than I just tried to.
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memedumpster - 2017-12-21
Aliens and false flag mass shootings are the two things we all secretly hope the tinfoilers are wrong about, even though they totally nailed government surveillance of the earth for a corporate run oligarchy and the Hollywood rape cults.
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