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Desc:Better days ahead.
Category:Science & Technology, Business
Tags:mars, combover, Dr. Robert Zubrin
Submitted:Pillager
Date:02/13/18
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Adjuvant
Sick burn on the moon, there.
Xenocide
YOU SUCK, YOU DUMB MOON.

SolRo
“Fuck you, moon!”

Mr. Purple Cat Esq.
He sure got belly-fire, but he's talkin' shit "THE science is there", dude SOME science is there.

One could also argue (as one other example) that before civilisation collapses we should plough our resources into the arguably more interesting and feasible goal of creating some form of self replicating, self improving AI which can take on the responsibility of figuring out and exploring the universe. (and maybe wipe us out but thats not important in this context)
MurgatroidMendelbaum
I'd put in for that Kickstarter.

TeenerTot
I think our next "challenge" should be stabilizing our climate. But that's just me, I guess.

SolRo
The great irony would be if we spend vast resources on space exploration while our civilization crumbles, and it the last days before the collapse we find out that life is extremely rare in the universe.

Meerkat
“Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance.” -- Vonnegut

Mister Yuck
A good point, since it's impossible for our species to work on two goals at once.

TeenerTot
MisterYuck, I'd agree with you if I had any faith that the current political climate would allow for both. Or either, even.
I never said we shouldn't do both, I'm responding to the speaker asserting that Mars should be "our next challenge." If we're prioritizing like that, then I disagree. The climate (IMHO) is more pressing.

Mister Yuck
OK, fair enough.

Robin Kestrel
I wish I had his outlook and passion. That was excellent, and got me fired up for Mars.
garcet71283
I agree with everything he says but all I see is a Portlandia character.
chumbucket
If Fred Armisen and George Clooney had an instantly adult baby.

Old_Zircon
This guy set off a ton of alarm bells so In looked him up and, surprise surprise, he's not even a scientist, he's an engineer. And not jsut any egineer, one of the Mars Direct engineers.

Way to dismiss entire fields you clearly don't know much about while stumping for private sector grant money in the name of some hazy conception of science that doesn't include stuff like rigorous data collection and analysis, champ.

Technology isn't science, and isn't going to save us.
Sputum
This post set off some red flags for me so I looked up the user's background and wow he isn't a scientist either! He doesn't even work at NASA! The closest thing to credentials I could find is hundreds of posts about drum machines.

Totally unqualified to comment, so irresponsible.

Come on man, why you gotta be so cynical.

posertom
The biggest red flag is that he had to look up Robert Zubrin. The guy's a legend.

I get OZ's criticism: Zubrin has an image of the capital-S Scientist that is about 300 years out of date. And the guy's a self-righteous prick. But it's all in service of getting that rocket built, the one that I think all scientists see more and more as our best chance at a mulligan.

betabox
There are no mulligans. No matter what starry-eyed dreamers fantasize about, we're stuck here. There's nothing better anywhere in reach, so all we can do is try to minimize the damage we're doing to the one place in the universe we evolved to inhabit.

At best, space travel can allow a very small number of people to live in stunningly miserable circumstances for a short period of time. There is no other Earth.

Oscar Wildcat
"Life could be better for you, in the Off World Colonies!"

Where have we heard that before...

posertom
I'm not so sure, bb. A very small number of people living in stunningly miserable circumstances for a short period of time is how this whole ride got started. At any rate, even that pitiful result would make the Mars program a better investment than most current human endeavors (with all due respect to dank memes).

memedumpster
Visiting space is an engineering problem.

Fixing earth is a myth, the hate filled violence worshipers that evolved here make that impossible. Let them die here with the planet in the crib death gravity well they were evolved into.

:)
Scrotum H. Vainglorious
Because, nigga, Trump ain't there.
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