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Desc:Give 'em Hell, Chris.
Category:Crime, Video Games
Tags:whores, Greed, gambling, lootboxes, Chris Lee
Submitted:Pillager
Date:02/25/18
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Comment count is 15
Nikon
I'm in favor of this. This is just my opinion, but I feel that if you plunk down $40 or more for a game, you should be able to get the entire game. Maybe there could be some cosmetic DLC you could choose to pay for if you wanted but nothing that provides a huge tactical advantage.
poorwill
The rot began with Blizzard imo. Not the microtransactions/loot box shit, but totally the grinding for loot drops/turning videogames into a Skinner box. They did more than most to groom aspies into videogame crack addicts, of which this is but the latest form. But Wizards of the Coast, Valve, Microsoft, various mobile trash developers all contributed to turning videogames into malware.
Nikon
I can remember killing lots of Dodos for a Crissaegrim but it's not right to force players to either do that or pay cash money for every important bit of gear.

SolRo
Grinding for loot drops happened long before blizzard

Mr. Purple Cat Esq.
Yeah companies like Blizzard just mindlessly follow the metrics / profits. This bullshit just seems to generally work. Humans like gambling.. Eg The macro-organization / decision-making of our global civilization is centred around the gambling (stock markets, finance industry etc) of the wealthy

poorwill
"Grinding for loot drops happened long before Blizzard" Blizzard turned it into a science though, and made games that practically revolved around it.

SolRo
No. They did not.

Blizzard isn't responsible for creating a damn thing ever. They're a company that takes others ideas and adapts them to their IP (which was also based on others ideas).

Their success often makes idiots say stupid things like 'blizzard did it first'.

poorwill
So who? Who did Blizzard rip off there? Show me who's alpha nerd, SolRo. Show me you're the biggest dog. I don't want to give Blizzard credit for even this as I think they are a shit company who literally ruin lives with their exploitative design practices but I just can't think of anyone who did what they did first, at least not in the systemic and deliberate way they did it.

infinite zest
in FPS terms, TF2 had boxes when Overwatch was still called "Titan", and you could/still can sell any old hat for however much you want on the community market.

poorwill
We're talking about loot grinding in general. I am pushing for the idea that Diablo really codified and fine-tuned it, and wove it into the fabric of the game in a way that no previous game had done, and that this was what loosened up the assholes of gamers for the reaming that was to come.

SolRo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telengard

poorwill
There are exactly 20 items in Telengard, 3 of which you start with. This includes all weapons, armour, potions and magical wearables. Fuck off, honestly.

Raggamuffin
We need more hot politicians opening their youtube videos with a swimsuit reel.
boner
Seriously

TeenerTot
There was something after the swimsuit?

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