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Desc:Sign of the times.
Category:News & Politics, Business
Tags:Censorship, free speech, facebook, Forgotten Weapons, Maven
Submitted:Pillager
Date:04/21/18
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M-DEEM
Ian 2020
badideasinaction
So this will be different than every other time a group formed to fund and protect YouTube channels in a bad monetization spot and ran off with the money?
You People Are Idiots
The FW guys r pretty decent
but ya theres gonna be so fuckin much
griftin of all th other libertardican altright pussyfarts
bitchin about free speech and reeing at a free market
its their main moneymaker after all
donate 2 my hatreon and find our important
opinyins about sjws on bitchutenazitubevoat

15th
A media corporation censoring content isn't the will of the free market.

You People Are Idiots
Thanks professor maybe wipe the tard cum off ur
glasses an re read it like someone less
of a mongoloid contrarian might
ur welcome

15th
Thanks

SolRo
corporation censoring content to retain ad buyers and ad viewers is the definition of the will of the free market

15th
Seems to me like a market response would mean these channels peter out do to a lack of consumer attention. That's far from the case. Advertisers could choose not to associate with gun related channels (I think?). Reads to me like an excerise of control/a political move - not like an organic response to "the market" of YouTube. I'm not arguing that it's not YouTube's right to do so. I just think it's a move further downhill for a company that outsources all of its value to content creators.

SolRo
I'll simplify it for your slow ass;

People That Pay For Ads; "Hey google, we don't like paying for ads if Nazis are calling for genocide on your platform"

Google; "Well we want free market hurf blurf blarb to make the decisions"

People That Pay For Ads; "Oh, okay, good luck with that. I'll be taking my piles of money elsewhere"

SolRo
That's how the free market actually works. But in this case it's not working in your favor so you're making up stupid definitions to fit your ideology.

15th
Not working in favor for me? I don't own a gun and I've watched like 20 minutes of forgotten weapons.


Why not dial the hostility down a bit?

You People Are Idiots
solro fuckin gets it
props

Old_Zircon
Youtube is a private company, so this isn't actually censorship or a free speech issue of any sort, legally speaking.'


Youtube (and Facebook and Google and possibly Amazon) should be public utilities, but until then, nope. Not censorship. Just business as usual.
15th
What do we do when social media surprasses the reach of traditional media? They can constitutionally push whatever they want, but millions of people get their news from Facebook, for example. Seems like we might be heading towards a bit of a pickle.

SolRo
Most of these whines aren't even about free speech, it's about google not paying them for their videos. Most of them can actually keep posting videos that don't violate laws or instruct others how to violate laws.

Old_Zircon
Browsed around themaven.net and I've got to give them credit, it really does seem to host a pretty wide political spectrum. If you sort by popularity it's all conservative stuff that's getting the most traffic right now, but if you sort by date you've got white supremacists and anti police violence activists and Palestinian feminists and classic conservatives and centrist liberals and the Cascadia movement and Venezuelan leftists and trans rights activists, and even fucking Blue Lives Matter.

So They lived up to their "broad spectrum" claim pretty well, although I don't see much presence of black folks from the USA or anyone east of India.
Old_Zircon
Actually I don't think those are white supremacists either, looks more like typical Fox News GOP sorts.

Which is technically not the same thing.

Old_Zircon
I definitely suspect this will lean heavily Libertarian though, but it looks like they're going for left-Libertarian as much as right-Libertarian so at least there's that.

Old_Zircon
Ian's video here is good.

You People Are Idiots
ians vid IS good man no disagreement there

""""""balance""" it aint over on maven
its phony balance like the bothsides fucktards here
a fuckin recruitment tool
from alt lite 2 full fash
this exactly how they work https://www.splcenter.org/20180419/mcinnes-molyneux-and-4chan-inve stigating-pathways-alt-right

SolRo
I find it idiotic that people fondly remember "the internet" ever being a universally free place where you could spout whatever opinion you felt like.

When there were 1000 different social and chat areas they were often moderated much more effectively than the internet giants today feel like paying for.

Like today, you could go find a neo-Nazi hole to crawl in to and rant about jews all you wanted, but it's not like you could go do that -everywhere- in the 90s.

Honestly the giant corporations not giving a shit (as long as they made money) is what lead to Al Qaeda being able to post their propaganda videos on youtube for years without repercussion (and google made money off them). The monopolies created by a handful of tech giants and their greed in maximizing profit is what created the period of unmoderated fascists, Nazis, racists, etc. posting their screeds without restriction.
You People Are Idiots
they want 1st amendmnt 2 protect them but bind their enemys
the centerist and libtard ppl are fuckin easy dupes for that
sort of hallow idealist """"""""actual virtue signalin""""" bullshit
wierdly not a fuckin supportive peep when its black lives or
some queers they decide are """"uppity" or the femanist sjws
comin 2 take their anime babyrape comix away

fuckin youtube and the rest r complicit in radicalizing
these morons
even the fuckin portal had mods and it was a sewer
this place is a great small scale example of the quality diffrence without
some active moddin
so many fuckin nazi rpers compared 2 how it used 2 b
where is chet and the rest of em? they need 2 clean house

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