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Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

1.4 million re-enfranchised voters in Florida in 2020.


simon666 - 2018-11-09

How much do you want to bet that a larger portion will vote GOP?


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

I was going to post a bunch of statistics about Florida conviction rates and partisanship by ethnicity but I'm lazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/08/allowing-fe lons-vote-would-likely-have-changed-result-floridas-senate-race/


simon666 - 2018-11-09

I've read all those things. I'm just not convinced people wont vote against their interest if they vote at all. I'll be happy to have egg on my face if I'm wrong.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

How do these people convince themselves that Mitt Romney is going to do anything but fall in line with the GOP agenda?


betamaxed - 2018-11-09

Yes but he'll do it while wearing funny religious underwear.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

Well OF COURSE Romney is going to support the GOP sgenda, but is he going to support Trump? Romney was a never-trumper from the beginning, and he's got six years before he's going to have to run again. Trump has two.

Look up his Tweets, his blog posts yourself. I wouldn't call them "scathing", but they're unambiguous. Don't fire Mueller. The press is not the enemy. Romney's got six years before he needs to stand for reelection. That's four more years than Trump. If I'm a prominent Republican with six years of job security, I have more to gain than to lose by.betting that the wheels are about to come off the Trump clown car.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

Trump's agenda IS the GOP agenda. In policy terms Trump is a main line Republican for the most part.


But leaving that aside, let's hear what ol' Mitt himself has to say these days:


"Asked, “You led the Never Trump movement, what happened with that?” a smiling Romney said: “I don’t think that was the case.

“President Trump was not the person I wanted to become the nominee of our party but he’s president now.

“The policies he’s promoted have been pretty effective and I support a lot of those policies. When there’s a place where I disagree I point that out.”"

-Quoted by The Guardian, Oct 13, 2018; video on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/mkeneally/status/1050892223821180928



"I will support the president’s policies when I believe they are in the best interest of Utah and the nation. I have noted, the first year of his administration has exceeded my expectations; he made our corporate tax code globally competitive, worked to reduce unnecessary regulations and restored multiple use on Utah public land. In addition, I am pleased that he backed away from imposing a 35 percent tariff on all foreign goods."

-Mitt Romney in the Salt Lake City Tribune last June


"Mitt Romney said it is "too early" to say he will support President Trump in 2020.

...

"I also think Gavin Newsom will get elected [as governor] in California. That's not something I want to see, it's just something that's probably going to happen," Romney added. "

-Washington Examiner, July 1 2018





I lived in Massachusetts for a long time. Trust me, there's a reason why he had the nickname "Mitt Mitt Full of Shit."


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-09

look how many people convinced themselves mccain was a ''''''maverick'''
they want to believe


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

I guess the significance of that last one isn't as obvious if you haven't lived under Romney governance. The subtext there is that if Mitt thinks Trump is a shoe in for 2020 reelection like he has been saying, Mitt will be supporting Trump because that is what Mitt does. But he isn't explicitly saying it so that he can maintain plausible deniability if he's wrong. That is also what Mitt does.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

McCain stopped the repeal of Obamacare


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

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You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-09

wow yea i guess that makes up for all the rest of his career by tossing out a vote that would cost him zero political capital
truly a maverick: http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

fucking idiot


Cena_mark - 2018-11-09

Pretty much all the other Never Trumpers have orange lips right now. Romney's lips will be orange quite soon.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

>>>I guess the significance of that last one isn't as obvious if you haven't lived under Romney governance. The subtext there is that if Mitt thinks Trump is a shoe in for 2020 reelection like he has been saying, Mitt will be supporting Trump because that is what Mitt does. But he isn't explicitly saying it so that he can maintain plausible deniability if he's wrong. That is also what Mitt does.

The singnificance is completely obvious. Romney was a Republican running for office against a President who had the support of the Republican base.

Now he's NOT going to be running for office for another six years, and he appears to be changing his tune.

I'm not a fan, and I'm not saying that he's not full of shit, but I am saying that SINCE the election he's made a deliberate point of breaking with Trump on social media.

>>>>But leaving that aside, let's hear what ol' Mitt himself has to say these days:

BEFORE the election no longer counts as "these days". Whatever happens, these are different days.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

>>>Pretty much all the other Never Trumpers have orange lips right now. Romney's lips will be orange quite soon.

Look, it's not rocket science. The election is over. Romney won in the Senate, and isn't going have to run again until 2024, when Trump's term is up. When the GOP is looking for a presidential candidate, "let's pick the guy who sucked Don's dick the most" is not likely to win the day.


cognitivedissonance - 2018-11-09

That picture of Romney simpering for a cabinet appointment in 2016 is all you need to know about his dedication to American democracy.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

>>wow yea i guess that makes up for all the rest of his career by tossing out a >>vote that would cost him zero political capital
>>truly a maverick: http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

>>fucking idiot

Okay, so what the hell is this?

I'm not terribly interested in arguing about whether a dead senator was really "a maverick", whatever the fuck that means, and clearly this blowhard isn't interested either, since a sarcastic strawman, a link to a website, and a bland, generic insult are all transparently lazy attempts to simulate an argument without summoning the necessary intellectual rigor to actually make a statement and defend it.

Fucking idiot though I may be, I'm not dumb enough to fall for this.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

>>>That picture of Romney simpering for a cabinet appointment in 2016 is all you need to know about his dedication to American democracy.

Politics, like lawyering, is a necessary profession that thrives on insincerity. It's not impossible that when Romney was sniffing around Trump hoping for a cabinet position, a concern for American democracy was involved somehow, but I'm not making that argument, nor would I.

The argument that I'm making is that Romney appears to have calculated that putting distance between himself and Trump is to his political advantage in the long term. He's not showing political courage. He's playing the odds. And the odds have shifted.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

"Okay, so what the hell is this?"

its his fucking voting record u stupid fucking boomer piece of shit
READ IT and then fucking tell urself how much he ''''''helped''' obamacare


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

"without summoning the necessary intellectual rigor to actually make a statement and defend it. "

weirdly all u have to do is compare your claim to his voting record to put fucking planet-sized holes in ur claim but yeah its me who cant summonhrrrrkdrrrrrrrrrbluhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrf

fucking idiot.


Gmork - 2018-11-10

You people are idiots is a fucking idiot. Wow, who'd have thought.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

gmork with another super original line thats only been used 20x so far
i mean DAMN OUCH MY FEEEELINGS pls dont follow my posts and make such sick burns mr david dukemork the racist i dunno if i can cooope 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"""""""""who cares if that's what non-whites go through""" - gmork, 2018, doing a racism again because he's a fucken fat racist cracker and always will be


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

>>>weirdly all u have to do is compare your claim to his voting record to put fucking planet-sized holes in ur claim

What claim is that, exactly?


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

>>>>jhm is a 60+ yr old guy obsessed about little girls like boxxy when he's not posting shirtless vids of himself wailing.

Okay, so at any given time I am obsessing about Boxxy or posting videos of myself wailing.

So, it foillows that I must be doing one of those things right now. Care to guess which one?

>>>>>weirdly all u have to do is compare your claim to his voting record to put fucking planet-sized holes in ur claim

But you don't do that, do you? You don't put forward an argument, where you define my "claim" and show how the facts contradict my claim. You link to something on the internet, and I'm supposed to do the work of reconstructing whatever it is you would say to me, if you had the conviction to actually say something. It's the oldest troll trick in the book, and I'm wise to it. I haven't let anyone give me homework since Evil Homer.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

u aint wise to shit ol creepy and every time u reply to anythin on here thats made crystal clear


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

https://youtu.be/6_BLWhkMlW0


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-11

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=163163


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-11

Okay, so on the anniversary of the sudden death of my closest friend of 25 years (the accident was November 11) you're going to keep on referencing this video that I made in an attempt to get some kind of handle on my grief. And apparently, if I try to let that slide, you're going to keep bringing it up again.

I don't know what your point is, but if it's anything other than "I'm a mean, nasty little cunt, and I'm really proud of that." you're going to have to explain it to me.

Except that I don't care. You're clearly a waste of oxygen, but you're no longer going to be wasting MY oxygen.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-11

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=163163


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-11

"""you don't come off as a person at all.""""""
""""but pwease wespect my feewings""""""""""

both u
u get exactly what u give creepy


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-14

"""you don't come off as a person at all.""""""
""""but pwease wespect my feewings""""""""""

both u
u get exactly what u give creepy

I didn't ask you to respect my feelings. My feelings aren't your responsibility. What I said was that you're a waste of oxygen. Does your display of Encyclopedia Dramatica edgelordism contradict that? Oh, heavens, no!

So far, there's no evidence that any kind of respect for human dignity is in your repertoire, so it wouldn't be reasonable for me to expect it of you, and it wouldn't even be fair, because I don't respect you at all. I think you're a piece of shit, and while it makes stylistic sense to put an adjective before that, I really can't think of one. If there's a single thing about you that's remotely interesting, you're keeping it to yourself. I'd like to encourage you in that. Keep it up.

My apologies if I gave you the wrong impression.

It took four days for me to get around to reading this, so while I'm sure you're going to want to get the last word in, you may not want to put in very much effort.


Robin Kestrel - 2018-11-09

Schlong? No.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-09

JHM, did you read The Clothes Have No Emperor? Great book, a long time favorite of mine and possibly the best book I've ever seen about the Reagan era.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

It's a great book, not only as humor, but as history, as a meticulous reconstruction of the day to day events of the Reagan years. Someone needs to do that for Trump. It's hard to keep track of every fucked up thing that's happened in just 2 years.


Hazelnut - 2018-11-09

Well done everybody who voted! YPAI / Bawbag (not sure which of you is the other's sock puppet), you may now go back to bitching about how the two parties are the same.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-09

yea all posters who hate ur stupid dicksucker posts r the same
not the political parties tho
wow u non voting tourists in the uk sure r smaaaaart


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-09

Bawbag is a giant douche, but I think he's got about 35 IQ points on this guy.


Marlon Brawndo - 2018-11-09

The two parties suck equally and pretend they aren't mutually a cover for the globalist conspiracies towards social engineering and not so secret military industrial complex with its empire building domination schemes. They are both manipulative. They are great at being distractions. But they both fucking suck.


Hazelnut - 2018-11-10

YPAI's mouth is so full of shit that he can't even form a sentence, so let's turn to Marlon's feat of intellect here:

"But they both fucking suck"
Sure.

"The two parties suck equally and pretend they aren't mutually a cover for the globalist conspiracies"
AH HAH HAH HAH HAH Noooooo no no no no NOOOO.

Here let me rephrase MB so you see how vapid his thinking is:

"Martin Luther King and Richard Nixon suck equally"

"Barack Obama and Donald Trump suck equally"

"The Civil Rights Movement and the Tea Party suck equally"


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

^hazelnut lives in the uk,, didnt bother to send a mail in vote and is a barren balled cuck

jhm is a 60+ yr old guy obsessed about little girls like boxxy when he's not posting shirtless vids of himself wailing
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=163163


Gmork - 2018-11-10

You People Are Idiots/Bawbag earnestly believes racial prejudice against strangers is okay so who the fuck cares what else he believes?

That's kind of a litmus test for "should you fucking care about anything that passes through their fingers or lips?"


Gmork - 2018-11-10

If you can't even nail basic human decency down, what the fuck do you think you're going to accomplish with your minimum-effort trolling of poetv and your strawman/projectionist bullshit?

Also find your fucking shift key, retard. It hurts to look at your millennial-style chicken peks.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

see ur branching out 2 hatred of the disabled again gmork
insulting disability in a post where u mention '''''''human decency'' tho without even one bit of irony
u tell on urself with every fucken post its amazing ha ha ha

never forget
''''''''''''who cares if that's what non-whites go through?'''

gmork the racist, 2018


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

also good job recyclin hazelnuts recycled sock claim
so far i'm about 10 different ppl here bcuz according to
all the bottom fucking idiots of this trashfire of portal dregs

i'm wuagh and oogle and bawwbag and everybody else who
triggered ur fat whiteboi racism sad feels tho and now u follow my posts regularly for ur little driveby tantrums ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


Hazelnut - 2018-11-10

I'm sorry, was YPAI trying to talk? Can't hear him over all that shit in his mouth.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

u really do have an obsession with scat huh?
makes sense you swallow the dnc slogans so hungrily
prob a good thing u never had kids tbh cuuuuck


Marlon Brawndo - 2018-11-10

This thread went downhill fast...damn.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

I will agree that "they both suck equally" is kind of sloppy. We all suck in our own special way.

>>>also good job recyclin hazelnuts recycled sock claim
so far i'm about 10 different ppl here bcuz according to
all the bottom fucking idiots of this trashfire of portal dregs

It's not that you come off as 10 different people, it's that you don't come off as a person at all.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-10

they cant help themselves MB

gmork the racist reduced 2 just followin my every post with driveby shitposts
hazelnutless screaming about scat and voting even tho he didnt vote
and now that oldass 60somethin yo felixray guy who creeped on boxxy for years thinks i dont come across as human enuff 4 him

portal of the dregs of the old forums doing whhat they do and im here enjoyin myself ha ha

save urself from this place marlon u seem alright


Marlon Brawndo - 2018-11-10

Thanks, I guess.

But then all I really need to know is I get shit from people on both sides for supporting third parties. I supported both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson as they made their campaigns and got a collective 5% of the vote because I think their viewpoints are crucial in order to have a country where people can vote for people they actually believe in if the two party system doesn't have any valid options. I hated Trump and I hated Hillary and I refuse to fucking apologize. I've been told, in real life, by real friends, that I'm no longer welcome in their homes because "we lost because of you" or "Hillary lost because you fucking people didn't support her like you SHOULD HAVE" and yes I've been told this, to my face. Everyone can kiss my motherfucking ass.

You can believe whatever you want and say whatever the hell you want on the Internet. But if you know me and you say that shit, I'm gonna go off on your ass. Getting up in my fucking grill because you want to take your life's shit out on me? You can fuck off with that shit. You can take your hurt feelings and go throw them off a cliff and then throw yourself off to go follow them you sensitive shitbag hypocrite good little sheep. Go be good sheep. Lick up the scraps, dummies. Lick up the military industrial scraps cuz that's good eatin' yummy yum, you dumbshit motherfucking hicks. And yeah, I'm Democrats a bunch of hicks, too. Ya'll dummies think you're so much better than the other side. Have you motherfuckers got a goldfish memory? No, you don't remember the Dems signing on board to Iraq, promising to end the war and then following up that sentiment with LIBYA, YEMEN, SYRIA and a whole shitton of countries in Africa you can't pronounce because you're too busy playing Candy Crush as you sip your cappuccinos you illiterate shitstains.

I would have voted for Bernie because he wasn't a hot goddamn mess and not a fucking tool. Oh but GUESS WHO colluded with the DNC? Yeah, that shit is antithetical to democracy. You think that bitch was gonna be fair to YOU? She wasn't fair to you when she stole herself the nomination. Why don't you kiss that bitches ass and ask her for universal health care. What's that? She told you to go eat your scraps and fuck the hell off? WELL THAT'S A SURPRISE OH MY FUCKING STARS I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT

Trump is a liar but at least he is proud of his motherfucking lunacy and admits what's on his mind. He doesn't try to hide his racism or his overwhelming pig ignorance. Hillary is a racist trash heap and I don't give a FUCK what happens to that old BAT. Fuck her. She never helped blacks or poors and waving around the IM WITH HER signs don't make that true you fucking mongs.

My prediction for this neverending train wreck is that Trump will literally die of a heart attack like the pig he is as he chokes on a Chick Fil A Dunkin Donuts pie or whatever the FUCK he eats. And then you'll have Pence in charge which will be no different other than you'll have less fucking sound bytes. Republicans will win the next election because Dems have no idea how to win people over anymore, other than promising to end ALL RACISM BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

Everyone but me is an idiot. The End.


Hazelnut - 2018-11-11

YPAI and MB are obviously different postets - for all his laziness, self pity, conspiracy theories and dog whistles MB can at least form an English sentence.

But it’s two flavors of the same nonsense, an echo chamber of fail. MB’s politics come down to ‘humanism is mainstream so I hate it’, as if politics were like those music subcultures where liking the more obscure band makes you better.

Just listen to MB praising Trump because he “doesn’t hide his racism” — as if that’s some wonderful authenticity to be proud of!

If you think Churchill is just as bad as Hitler, you are delusional garbage. It’s as simple as that.

But here’s the fun part: YPAI and MB can bitch all day - they still lost the House!


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-12

its funny u think my writing is bad but u and ur
grammar schoolmarm ass cant figure out the
concept that u can be absolutely disgusted
by dems failures and still not be one of the fuckin magats

my stance is that america deserves better than the ratfuck gop
or the useless dnc who have failed us my entire life
urs is that we just need to keep our fingers crossed
and vote dem forever

cant wait for all u fucking dem dittoheads to let
shrillery ruin another shot at the presidency in 2020


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-12

""""they still lost the House!""

great argument ur havin with urself here
i didnt lose shit because i'm not a fucken republican
did u miss that in ur weeks of insane screaming bitchposts???
sure seems like u did


Hazelnut - 2018-11-14

YPAI again trying to talk, but his mouth is once again too full of his own shit to express anything coherent.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-14

>>>great argument ur havin with urself here

Exactly! You're not arguing with anybody, because you don't have an argument. You mock, and you insult people, but you never actually say anything.

>>>i didnt lose shit because i'm not a fucken republican

Don't dismiss it out of hand. You'd make a fine Republican.

I have no psychic powers, but I think this guy is under 30, and by the time he's 45 he's gonna be red as a babboon's ass.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-15

"this guy is under 30"

are u trying to win the '''always wrong'''''' category or is it just a natural talent??? 🤔


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

>>>I would have voted for Bernie because he wasn't a hot goddamn mess and not a fucking tool. Oh but GUESS WHO colluded with the DNC? Yeah, that shit is antithetical to democracy. You think that bitch was gonna be fair to YOU? She wasn't fair to you when she stole herself the nomination. Why don't you kiss that bitches ass and ask her for universal health care. What's that? She told you to go eat your scraps and fuck the hell off? WELL THAT'S A SURPRISE OH MY FUCKING STARS I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT

???????

>>>I've been told, in real life, by real friends, that I'm no longer welcome in their homes because "we lost because of you" or "Hillary lost because you fucking people didn't support her like you SHOULD HAVE" and yes I've been told this, to my face.

Really? It's not because you're a raving looney?

I don't want to condone Debbie Wasserman Schultz, I'm glad that she was forced to resign, but the Democratic establishment didn't make it any harder for Bernie than the Republican establishment did for Trump, who, I have to admit it, did okay, as did Obama in 2008.

>>>Yeah, that shit is antithetical to democracy.

But it's not antithetical to party politics. In 2016, Bernie Sanders was a 72 year old man who had joined the Democratic Party at the age of 71. I had been a Democrat 39 years longer than that. I campaigned for George McGovern when I was 14. Hillary Clinton had been a Democrat for probably 10-12 years longer than me. In party politics, the establishment has the advantage because it's established. It literally means they were here first. In democracy, seniority doesn't count for anything, in party politics, it does.

In party politics, nobody gets to come out of nowhere, and have a level playing field.

>>>I would have voted for Bernie because he wasn't a hot goddamn mess and not a fucking tool.

True, but his supporters were all that, and so much more. I didn't support Bernie in the primaries, but if he had won the nomination, I would have been all in for Bernie. The Bernie supporters made some incredible progress in 2016, they could have been a force in the future, but they just pissed it all away when they didn't get all the marbles.

Look, I don't think you're to blame for Trump. I blame the Trump voters, okay? But the lack of discipline, vision, and common sense that the Bernie followers showed, the way they let Russians hackers play them like a cheap harmonica, tells me that the Democrats backed the right horse, even if Hillary has to share some of the blame for not bringing the Bernie babies into the tent.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-10

Soory. Fucked up the reply button again. I dunno, does this thing have a time out or something?


Marlon Brawndo - 2018-11-11

Hillary clearly colluded with the DNC. That isn't their job, idiot. It's not their job to choose our candidate for us. They got off scot free for that. Debbie got a job working on Hillary's campaign and she very clearly knew. Fuck both those authoritarian bitches and their load of horse shit.

At least Trump, Gary and Jill earned their tickets. Hillary didn't even want to bother. If she had nothing to worry about, WHY DID SHE COLLUDE AGAINST SANDERS IN THE FIRST PLACE? She had spies and moles in his campaign. That bitch got what she deserved, to lose to another asshole who is also a misogynistic piece of shit.

And to turn things around, if America had voted for Gary Johnson he would have pulled our troops out of every fucking country and we wouldn't be spending our grandchildren into eternal debt.

And yes, people threw me out of their lives for voting for Gary Johnson. I have taken so much shit for it, more than I can describe.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-11

>>>They got off scot free for that.

Because it's not a crime, Whinestein.

>>>And to turn things around, if America had voted for Gary Johnson he would have pulled our troops out of every fucking country and we wouldn't be spending our grandchildren into eternal debt.

Yes, but our grandparents would lose their medicare and die horribly from insulin shock.

>>>That bitch got what she deserved, to lose to another asshole who is also a misogynistic piece of shit.

Look, I don't condone any of that shit, but Hillary Clinton is a rich lady with a summer house in upstate New York who commands handsome speaking fees. She's not going to lose her health care, or her food stamps, or starve to death when global climate change interrupts the food supply. Her grandchildren aren't going to be locked up because her parents are desperately seeking asylum.


casualcollapse - 2018-11-11

You people are idiots, your support was completely absent on that crying video.. DIAGNOSIS: you are a troll and rabble-rouser


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-12

true lemme go give my support per ur request


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-14

It makes you feel sad to think that some poor woman wasted a whole lot of time and endured considerable physical discomfort pushing this doofus out through her vagina.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-15

"you're no longer going to be wasting MY oxygen." - ol creepy then

"bluuurrrh hurrrrnnn grrrrrrk" - ol creepy boxxy stalker still wasting oxygen


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