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Desc:Way to leave your child in the middle of the street lady
Category:Science & Technology, Horror
Tags:baby, Mother, toronto, pedestrian aggression
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Comment count is 36
jfcaron_ca - 2019-04-09
Clips like this are why I understand the need for "trigger warnings". This kind of encounter gets my heart rate up like the ones of Russians dangling from abandoned towers.

It's because I can totally see myself in the lady's position and freaking out about a driver doing an illegal-and-aggressive-but-commonplace thing. It's not rational, but if you recognize cars for the dangerous things they are, a careless driver can easily trigger a fight-or-flight response.
kingofthenothing - 2019-04-09
Yeah, but would it trigger a "let's push the baby in front of the car" response? Would it trigger you leaving your kid there in the middle of the road to potentially get run over? Would you try to Superman another vehicle?

Robin Kestrel - 2019-04-09
I firmly believe people need to stop driving so aggressively and also need to be aware of pedestrians and yield to them, but I don’t think I’d push my baby carriage in front of a car to make that point.
Meerkat - 2019-04-09
The thing about pedestrians I really don't like is when they just walk in front of cars without looking. MEET THE DRIVER'S EYES TO MAKE SURE S/HE SEES YOU.

I had a pretty close call myself, waiting to turn into a street and watching oncoming traffic for a break. Saw a break, slapped the car into gear and started letting up on the clutch and LO AND BEHOLD some guy is walking his little daughter in front of my car. Clutch back down, crisis averted.

Guy saw my signal flashing (I assume) and should have seen the back of my head looking at oncoming traffic and just walked right in front of my car trusting I guess that I could somehow see him.

Anyway that's my rant, I hope you liked it.

jfcaron_ca - 2019-04-09
The responsibility to be careful rests of the person capable of doing the most damage[1]. The crosswalk (and every intersection is an unmarked crosswalk) is a place specifically for drivers to pay extra attention. If you can't handle the stress of not running people over, maybe you shouldn't drive.

[1] In the case of this video, I suppose this would mean she shouldn't have kids.

Meerkat - 2019-04-09
Yeah that's why I checked again, just force of habit. But I could see someone checking, then waiting for a break in traffic, then peeling out without checking again and not expecting there to be a guy with a kid standing in front of their car. Seriously, this guy came out of nowhere, he was not in view 10 seconds earlier.

I always make sure the driver sees me before I get in front of a vehicle. I don't trust anyone to be responsible.

Mister Yuck - 2019-04-09
Mr Caron, that's a bit of an absolutist position. The responsibility is on everyone to try and navigate traffic successfully. No driver can look every direction at once and everyone gets distracted. We all got to cooperate and not put ourselves in dangerous positions, even when we're 'right'.

jfcaron_ca - 2019-04-09
It's a deliberately-chosen absolutist position. Let's get rid of cars (and do all the hard work to reconfigure our lives and cities and industries to deal with that simple notion) and make our lives better.

Mister Yuck - 2019-04-09
Okay. In the mean time don't get hit by a car.

Old_Zircon - 2019-04-10
I can't remember the last time I could see a driver's face clearly, much less make eye contact. On account of the fact that there's, you know, a one-way mirror reflecting the sky between you and them. I guess maybe if it was late at night and they turned their interior lights on and you shone a flashlight in your own face then yeah, you might be able to make eye contact. Every once in a while in the summer it'll be possible to make some kind of eye contact through an open window, but usually it's not an option.

Around here you're lucky if a driver doesn't drive straight into a crosswalk against the light while signaling for a turn they never make (which happened to me three times in one week at the same intersection last year, although usually it's more like once or twice a month).

Accidie - 2019-04-09
This woman is just fucking insane. That was downright reasonable seeming driving, even if it rolled a stop sign or something. Pushing a baby in front of a car and then pounding on the windshield while riding the hood down the block is entirely unreasonable. This is not really a conversation worth having guys.
glasseye - 2019-04-09
Incorrect. The pedestrian ALWAYS has right of way. The driver failed to yield.

Mister Yuck - 2019-04-09
The driver failed to yield... And the lady pushed her kid in front of the car. The driver may have bad etiquette, but that lady is more nuts than me nutting in a jar of mixed nuts.

glasseye - 2019-04-09
It's not bad etiquette, it's like running a red light.

animegurl1000 - 2019-04-09
Ontario Highway Traffic Act 1990, chapter H.8, s section 140 (4) - "No pedestrian or person in a wheelchair shall leave the curb or other place of safety at a pedestrian crossover and walk, run or move the wheelchair into the path of a vehicle or streetcar that is so close that it is impracticable for the driver of the vehicle or streetcar to yield the right of way."

As much as I want to side with the mom-- because I constantly see and encounter asshole drivers who pretend like pedestrians don't exist-- she darted in front of the car after it started moving and then tried to run into the path of it even as it swerved left to avoid them. I can't help but feel like she had an axe to grind.

On the other hand, the driver should have stayed and waited at the stop sign while she crossed.

Nominal - 2019-04-10
Glasseye, glancing up from the law books to tell us more bloody accidents would be avoided if only society stopped victim blaming batshit pedestrians and unfit mothers.

Accidie - 2019-04-10
animegurl - I wouldn't say she darted in front of the car so much as PUSHED A BABY IN FRONT OF IT.

animegurl1000 - 2019-04-10
That too. "The car will surely stop if I push my baby in its path!" is definitely not the product of a sound mind.

Mister Yuck - 2019-04-09
I'm a big fan of everybody who drives around the baby carriage instead of stopping and putting that baby out of danger.
Accidie - 2019-04-09
yeah, they're the real heroes of this story

Rosebeekee - 2019-04-10
They probably thought if they got out and moved the carriage the mother would chimp out on them while screaming that her baby was being abducted or something.

Marlon Brawndo - 2019-04-14
The human thing to do would be to wait right behind the carriage and stop the car to make sure no one else went through in case someone knocked it over.

People are fucking selfish idiots.

Two Jar Slave - 2019-04-10
boner - 2019-04-10
Funny you should say that. I saw a couple pushing a stroller across the street last weekend and I thought about this video. When I looked into the stroller, it was full of hamburger buns.

casualcollapse - 2019-04-10
There is a woman at my apartment complex that uses a baby stroller for everything but a baby

Ugh - 2019-04-10
got that pioneer attitude like a mother of ten who can afford to lose one here or there
Ugh - 2019-04-10
the street divides here

you may:

1. cross the street with impunity as is your right

2. wait until you've been waved through by a motorist

Ugh - 2019-04-10

Ugh - 2019-04-10
your mother has lost her temper

you lose:

4 wheels

1 blanket

255 bullets

1 baby

casualcollapse - 2019-04-10
Thank you ⅝* ....wait 5* for you

Rosebeekee - 2019-04-10
Uhh... am I blind or are there no stop signs anywhere at that intersection?
exy - 2019-04-10
I think it's signalled. Shadow at the very beginning + maybe lights visible on left side of the porch cam

animegurl1000 - 2019-04-10
I can see part of a stop sign at the far left of the video starting at 0:08 (it's mostly obscured by another sign). According to an article I read the intersection where this happened (Soudan and Forman) is an all-way stop.

boner - 2019-04-10
I guess this is a novelty to see in a suburban neighborhood. If you work downtown you will regularly see people with strollers darting in and out of rush hour traffic without looking up from their phone or dropping the coffee cup.
Ugh - 2019-04-10
it's definitely super dramatic but i think a lot of the fun stems from the fact that she treats her baby like a prop for a bas rutten bar fight tutorial

Marlon Brawndo - 2019-04-14
I didn't think it was going to get crazier and then BOOM the crazy went up a few notches. This clip delivered.
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