inshallah

salaam. Or not, whatever

Funny because I lived in Saudi Arabia and everybody I met there was great. Kindest most best people, Bedoins in the desert with invitations in for tea and dates stands out most firmly in my memories

THAT IS FUNNY.

What is..be specific man ..

They're kind as long as they know you aren't something they are trained to despise (Jew, gay, atheist, apostate, anyone who criticizes them or insinuates their cult isn't perfect)

Exactly like how every Christian will murder pro-choice people and every Jew will murder Arabs and steal their house.

And every atheist is obviously Stalin

You should have just stuck with all religion is mind poison to not come off islamophobic.

Oh look, MB is a piece of shit.

What a surprise.

I think Christianity is shit but it's less shitty than a religion that has laws that actively seek to destroy the rights of everyone who is not a Muslim. The West is culturally superior.

If you disagree, feel free to move back to Saudi.

Really? "If you disagree, feel free to move back to Saudi?' Idiot or troll? Can't tell, but Brawndo gonna Brawndo.

Theocracy is always bad. Forces of theocracy are gathering in the US, and they're not any better, and in practice, theocracy is never about God, it's always about protecting the powerful. George W. Bush claimed God had chosen him to be President. Who do you think killed more Civilians, Bush or Bin Laden.

The reason why Muslims tried to build a neighborhood community center near the site of the World Trade Center was because that was their neighborhood. They lived there. They weren't the perpetrators of the disaster, they were among the victims. You don't think Bin Laden knew there were a lot of Muslims living in lower Manhattan? You think he gave a shit? Muslims who didn't care about theocracy didn't count.

Most religions say that their religion should be everyone's religion. Just like Islam, Christianity was also spread far and wide because of the sword. Yes, Saudi Arabia sucks, but it's not right to measure the world's 1.3 billion Muslims to just that one nation.

Actually, when Muslims conquered Turkey, North Africa, and Spain in the early medieval period, they had no mandate from the Caliph to convert the conquered populations to Islam. They slapped non-Muslims with an extra tax, but otherwise didn't give much of a shit at all. Christians and Jews weren't ghettoized either: they were able to own land and work in high-level administrative positions.

That said, many conquered locals willingly converted to Islam because, (1) the cool guys at the top of society were Muslim, and (2) if there's something that unites all peoples across time and geography it's the love of a tax loophole.

I liked it better when exhibits stayed on the other side of the glass. Everything's all going Jurassic Park.

DUDE I WAS JUST TROLLING FOR LULZ, THIS NEVER HAPPENED ON 4CHAN!!!!

Wow, there's some deeply religious people on poetv! Who knew?

Not meant as a reply. But, yeah, violence should be an expected and socially acceptable response to blasphemy. You see the new Cosmos? I FUCKIN LOVE SCIENCE!!!

Violence should be a socially and legally acceptable response to anyone “trolling” in real life.

please my good sirs please

there appears to be a commotion

this is simply my bruce willis in die hard 3 cosplay and i have the right to-

SolRo, please get back to drinking yourself to death.

What makes you think I stopped?

well, maybe you could just hurry it up already.

Didn't you see their free speech, zone those cones worth supposed to protect those men.. someone should fire those cones

Amazing! Deliberately antagonizing people can lead to them disliking you!

It does. But with Muslims it leads to them violently attacking you because they come from an inferior baby culture where they lash out at the slightest whisper against the pedophile they love so much.

This is like flag burning in the US. I absolutely defend your right to free expression, you loathsome piece of shit.

my stars => Ugh for tthe perfect summation

They should have the freedom to throw a book around.

Fuck anyone that attacks them for it, even if they are trying to piss them off.

And while I'm at it, you guys are apologizing for Muslim violence. Way to go!

the people who attacked them deserve whatever punishment fits the crime (my personal vote is for a pizza party but i am not in charge)

and these two guys got what they wanted as well, it could not have gone better for them

i'm pretty sure if there hadn't been violence you would have been utterly disappointed in your perception of these people you consider sub-human as well MB

so, congratulations everyone wins

If Brawndo had said "You guys are apologizing for violence!", I'd be on his side.

But since he chose the bizarre wording "Muslim violence", that's automatically going to make Brawndo number one on my FUCK YOU list. followed by everybody in the video in no particular order. Dumb guys trolling other dumb guys, who are easily trolled. other dumb guys.

I'll say it again: The internet isn't making people more stupid, it's making stupid people louder.

They are apologizing for Muslim violence. They are apologizing because they want to believe that because Muslims are a minority in the West, they deserve the special right to lash out whenever their babyish beliefs are mocked. It's a reaction based on the thought that Muslims are automatically victims and we automatically should pity them and side with them.

Which is stupid. And I should point out, I'm not the one defending a shit religion that has violence at its fucking core as a concept enshrined by God. If you want to live in a Muslim country, fucking go for it. But don't expect anyone in the West to be happy with Muslims demanding we treat their religion with deference and respect. I don't respect Islam. I spit on their beliefs and the misery and overwhelming oppression they bring with them. Muslims generally don't believe any of you should have the right to do anything but worship Allah. I would say the majority of them don't care about your rights, only their own.

Throw their fucking book a fucking fire, that's where it belongs.

Okay I'll take back that last comment. I was drunk and angry at religion. I don't support book burning.

But fuck religion so hard, especially in Sri Lanka.

^^^THIS

I can't think of a more widely-practiced ideology more antithetical to progressivism. Anyone that's not an absolute mysongistic fascist should be disturbed by the daily injustices this IDEA is responsible for.

If you're so fucked in the head: the victims are almost exclusively women and brown people. Maybe that will help?

'Execution for leaving islam' is the value of approximately 1/3rd of the world's muslims.

>>>Go ahead and bitch about christianity as much as you like, and especially the christian right and evangelicals in the US. But then are you going to turn a blind eye to what centrist islam is?

I'm certainly not going to defend that, but I will point out that 1/3 is less than 1/2 so we're not really talking about "centrist", are we now?

The 1/3 you so vehemently obsess about also happens to be the portion that gets the most financial and military support from the US (and others) government.

And look, it's not like the opinion of 1/3 of muslims isn't a genuine issue, but dumbed-down dogmatic explanations that don't see distinctions with the other 2/3 isn't bringing us any closer to addressing that issue.

Both of you: lies, cherry picking and forced interpretation. Read the whole fucking article.

Poetv in general:
Stop bending over backward for islam, it doesn't make you more liberal. It's fucking horseshoe politics, and every time you give islam a double-standard that you don't give other religions, you're taking a step toward the left tip of the horseshoe where it may as well be the right tip; your 'reasoning' is puritan hypocritical dictates. This guilty identity shit isn't progressive.

You can condemn median islam and still have plenty of room to accept that:
1) this doesn't apply to reform or agnostic muslims, or reform mosques
2) there are people who are generally good people even if they're backward on some things
3) there are people who are generally good people despite the religious/political society that they live in, even if they participate in it enough to get by.
You need not much more than a decent education and human deceny to realize all this can be true and can apply to a very large percentage of muslims, or any group... and yet there are others in those same societies who are no better than trumptards or nazis or maoists or pol pot's cronies.

And ALL THREE of those groups have a harder time when median islam is what it is: oppressive and bordering on totalitarian.

I question how much anyone who can't even acknowledge these problems actually gives a shit about human rights. Anyone has the fucking right to read a book, or not read it or burn it or throw it on the ground or joke about it or parody it. Anyone has the right to worship or not worship as they please, love who they please, get an abortion if they must, and so on.

It DOESN'T MATTER who the two fucking dudes in this video are, or how shitty they are. They still have a right to throw a book. Have you lost your goddamn minds about how rights should work?

Anyone has a right to make judgements about values and beliefs. Anyone has the right to make judgements about culture and religion and politics. That's not prejudice, it's ethical judgement. You might be right or wrong, I might be right or wrong, and it might all be unknowable. But no belief or value gets a free pass for any reason. Religion (or politics or culture) is a fucking belief set that, really often, tells you what people are going to value over what, and what they're going do.

Don't tell me poetv can all shit-talk westboro or mormons or scientologists or hardline israelis or the religious right or libertarians, but then it's fucking hands-off with this one religion, and yet that religion's median beliefs and values have the stats that I linked you to.

You didn't have much to say about this chart, did ya?
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/04 /gsi2-overview-9.png

The thing is, you all gang up on Marlon like your shit doesn't stink. SolRo, Hazelnut, jeriko, JHM, Ugh, CM, your shit stinks.
'Tossing book vs. violence', and you're siding with the violent people for reasons of mere identity?

You know who else likes to settle shit on mere identity? Trumptards. You think this kind of identity-based leftism wouldn't IMMEDIATELY become a tyranny if it succeeded?

Saved 'em for something.

>>>Don't tell me poetv can all shit-talk westboro or mormons or scientologists or hardline israelis or the religious right or libertarians, but then it's fucking hands-off with this one religion, and yet that religion's median beliefs and values have the stats that I linked you to.

You can talk shit about hardline Israelis. Talking shit about "Jews" is... problematic. If that makes me a hypocrite, guilty as charged.

There's a context here.


>>>You know who else likes to settle shit on mere identity? Trumptards. You think this kind of identity-based leftism wouldn't IMMEDIATELY become a tyranny if it succeeded?

Dear God, Man Do you know nothing? Trumptards are currently harrassing a muslim who is a member of congress, and a woman of color
because of something pretty innocuous that is being disingenuously linked to terrorism, and Trump is totally encouraging them. In my country, which, happily, is not Afghanistan, innocent suffering refugees are being tossed into limbo because they're not white, but the excuse is a possible link to terrorism. This ugly harmful stereotype ties right into this nonsense. And so does your dumb rhetoric.

i liked the part where the guys got their asses kicked for being intentional assholes

>>>Because it's good to call out Nazis on their Jew hating but God forbid the pure and innocent Muslims be called out on their Jew hating. Their Jew hating is totally different!


It's different because Nazis are all about hating Jews. I can tell you from personal experience, not all muslims hate jews. So yeah, totally different.

>>>It won't be so funny if you're at the end of a gun being forced to recite passages from that book.

Yeah, I have to agree, that's going to suck.

stars for that guy

TG Amen brother. Fuck christianity, fuck islam, but most of all FUCK EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE.

*activates nuke*

****Both of you: lies, cherry picking and forced interpretation. Read the whole fucking article

Okay, first of all, if you're going to start assigning homework, I'm going to start calling you"Evil Homer". It's a fine thing to provide a link as documentation to back up your argument, but when you just link to an artcle and say "read it" without using the information in an argument, you can sell that banana oil elsewhere, kid. I'm not going to bother engaging with an argument I THINK you're making.

So I'm lying? Does that mean that one third IS more than one half?

I'm abaollutely against theocracy, and anti-semitism, and all sorts of evils that ware unquestionably associated with the practice of Islam in various places in the world, but its not a discernable factor with the vast majority of muslims that I have encountered in my own country. My best friend in college was a black Muslim woman. It was a SUNY school. If she was a virulent.anti-Semite, I think I would.have known.

That Guy your post is amazing. Thank you.

I’ll keep siding with violence against people intentionally trying to incite fear, hate and violence.

They’re getting what they want and they deserve much worse.


I’ll spin it back around to you and ask if we should protect the KKK if they go into a black neighborhood and start burning crosses and hanging black effigies.

Some people are just born assholes and there are way too many humans on this planet for me to want to protect assholes from getting their faces kicked in. We should spend that effort to protect people that really need it like domestic abuse victims, children being targeted by gangs, and a thousand other classifications of victims that deserve way more of your pity and our protection than these assholes.

Lol. Deep thoughts from the guy who jokes about children getting raped by their teachers.
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=162041

Maybe you're the last guy that should be advocating violence against assholes.

>>>I’ll spin it back around to you and ask if we should protect the KKK if they go into a black neighborhood and start burning crosses and hanging black effigies.

When people who ask for trouble get it, i don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them. But I'm not going to endorse the violent response as the right thing to do.

If you think that's what they deserve, well, I'm not going to say that your're right or you'e wrong. I don't think that's the point. I oppose the death penalty, but I feel fairly certain there are some people who deserve it.

If the Klan were marching thorough a black neighborhood, I would expect law enforcement to protect EVERYONE, or maybe arrest the Klan if their behavior warrants it;

You know, there's a little bit of overlap here. When Richard Spencer got punched in the head at the Trump inauguration, I didn't really feel like i could endorse that, I couldn't argue that it was the right thing to do, but HELL YEAH he deserved it, and I got a kick out of the video. I don't have a problem with that contradiction.

>>I’ll spin it back around to you and ask if we should protect the KKK if they go into a black neighborhood and start burning crosses and hanging black effigies.

Burning crosses and hanging black effigies are illegal actions in most places because society considers them to be deliberate acts of intimidation and incitement to violence against minorities; e.g., terrorism. So no, we shouldn't protect criminals doing terrorism.

If you think tossing around a holy book or otherwise disrespecting Islam should be treated as a criminal action, well, there are many people around the world who agree with you, but I'm not one of them.

If you think people should be celebrated for attacking anyone who intentionally offends them, you're just being an asshole.

I don't make excuses for any violence. Any time someone attacks someone with violence, it's a step backward for the human race. The whole idea of cheering this on because HAHA THEY WERE BEIN JERKS TO MUSLIMS SO THEY HAD IT COMING is missing so many points. The guys throwing the book were being disrespectful to a religion where the adherents are willing to physically attack you, out of the blue, for daring to insult their shit religion.

All religion is shit so stop pretending Islam isn't shit just because conservatives are more paranoid about it in general. The UK is experiencing acid attacks, honor killings and a great deal of spousal abuse and that isn't a fucking accident. The Pulse shooting wasn't a fucking accident. Churches and synagogues are being burned and vandalized across France. GEE I WONDER WHO COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. Because it's good to call out Nazis on their Jew hating but God forbid the pure and innocent Muslims be called out on their Jew hating. Their Jew hating is totally different! They are a minority being oppressed and therefore they deserve the right to inflict our societies with their hate-filled racism and genocidal fervor. That's okay for Muslims to beat those who don't respect their prophet, because someone made fun of Ilhan Omar's headscarf. They deserve the right to violently lash out on people you might disagree with politically so therefore it's hilarious! Haha.

It won't be so funny if you're at the end of a gun being forced to recite passages from that book. Which will happen if Muslims ever become the majority in any European country or here.

Also, stop fucking identifying with Muslims you think are "getting even" with conservatives or somehow fighting against the system you are opposed to ie conservative values. I can assure you that Muslims are a thousand times more conservative in their values.

>>>>Any time someone attacks someone with violence, it's a step backward for the human race.

I suppose, but your racist bullshit does not move us forward.

>>>Because it's good to call out Nazis on their Jew hating but God forbid the pure and innocent Muslims be called out on their Jew hating. Their Jew hating is totally different!


It's different because Nazis are all about hating Jews. It's a defining trait. I can tell you from personal experience, not all muslims hate jews. So yeah, totally different.

>>>It won't be so funny if you're at the end of a gun being forced to recite passages from that book.

Yeah, I have to agree, that's going to suck.

I don't think it's racist to assume most Muslims hate Jews. That's a pretty strong cultural point of theirs.

"That's a pretty strong cultural point of theirs"

Well, who can argue with THAT?