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casualcollapse - 2020-04-26

Westworld is good now...


Gmork - 2020-04-26

I mean, it was good before. This newest season, though...


Maggot Brain - 2020-04-28

idk those middle sessions~


Binro the Heretic - 2020-04-26

It's been funny & scary seeing things that had niche appeal when I was a kid become mainstream.

On the one hand, I think it's great. It's what I wanted when I was young. As a kid, I wished there were more people willing to watch sci-fi/fantasy TV shows & play tabletop RPGs. On the other hand, it's shown me how dangerously broken many of the people who shared my interests from the beginning are. It makes me worry I might be dangerously broken myself.

It reminds me of this place out in the woods where teens & young adults would go to make a fire, drink beer, eat snacks & fast food, generally hang out, etc. One night, I was there with a carload of friends and things seemed to be going okay. It was mostly twentysomethings that night with a scattering of late teens like myself. We were all regulars.

Anyway, a car pulled up and a bunch of giggling highschoolers spilled out carrying bags presumably full of food and/or illicitly acquired booze. As they were approaching the fire, they were intercepted by a guy who had been a regular since long before I started hanging out there.

This guy had a reputation for being an obnoxious loudmouth, but was generally harmless. On the rare occasions he managed to provoke someone, he quickly backed down. I should also note he would adorn his face with what he called "chaos symbols" with black eyeliner pencil and he always wore a red bandanna as a headband and made his hair intentionally wild & spiky. He was way into D&D and was always trying to get other players into joining him for a campaign, but his personality led everyone to decline the invitation. He also tried to talk the younger girls into going off into the woods with him, but again his personality led them to decline the invite. (I later found out he was almost 40 years old)

So this guy with crazy hair & black squiggle marks all over his face gets between the new kids and the rest of us and starts talking to them. We can't really hear what's being said and most of us hadn't even noticed the exchange. But then we heard his voice getting loud & harsh.

We looked over to see him berating the kids who now looked scared. He started gesticulating towards them and they began to back away towards the car. He pressed forward, sounding angrier & louder. Some of the older guys from around the fire started to go over, but the kids hustled back into the car and took off.

So chaos guy comes back over to the fire talking about how those kids didn't understand the place and what it what all about. Several people, including my group, decided it was time to go. It took us a little while to gather everyone and a couple were reluctant, but we finally talked everyone back to the car.

We were a few miles down the road back to civilization when some police cruisers passed us heading back the way we just came. That did not bode well. Sure enough, the frightened kids had called the cops. This was the late 1980s and the "satanic panic" was still going on. All they knew was some crazy old dude with black marks on his face had threatened them and a bunch of people around a bonfire had started coming towards them.

The owner of the property put up a fence & posted "No Trespassing" signs. So that was the end of that hangout.


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2020-04-26

good story!


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-26

I don't think this relates to the video, but, really who cares? For you.


Cena_mark - 2020-04-26

Don't blame Chaos Symbol guy. The place would have either been ruined by the police or by poseurs. The poseurs were already on the march, and he protected the place from them.


Binro the Heretic - 2020-04-26

@ John Holmes Motherfucker,

The anecdote can be seen as a metaphor for "nerd culture" overall. At least, that's what it is to me, the guy who experienced both. I would have loved for the "cool" kids to come over to my house to play D&D because, to me, the point wasn't playing D&D, it was hanging out, talking shit and never getting more than a few turns done over the course of 3 hours.

But then there were the people for whom playing D&D was the point. They were always there, bitching about when we talked about movies, TV or other people. Had the "cool" kids come over, the hardcore players would have treated them like shit until they stopped coming over.

And "nerd culture" used to be a sort of counterculture. It definitely wasn't mainstream. It was rare & cool to find someone into the same stuff.

When it started becoming more popular, many people, like me, were totally jazzed. "Oh, you liked that one movie? Here are a bunch of similar ones. Want to watch one with me?" And then there the people like chaos guy. They felt the new fans were interlopers who didn't belong. They viciously attacked everyone who wasn't a "true" fan. The fact a show like "Rick & Morty" has such mainstream appeal is amazing to me. I love that I can talk about it with coworkers who aren't usually into the same stuff.

But I guess there will always be people like chaos guy who see themselves as "gatekeepers" protecting the sacred texts from the eyes of the infidels.


Binro the Heretic - 2020-04-26

@ Cena_mArk,

Are you being serious or was that subtle sarcasm?


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-26

In the case of Rick and Morty, however, the "True Fans" are actually clueless noobs, and terrible human beings to boot.


Cena_mark - 2020-04-27

Yeah, kinda joking, but the guy just did his duty as a gate keeper.


Binro the Heretic - 2020-04-27

@ Cena_mark,

No, he was just an asshole. One of those kids had probably been brought to the place earlier by older friends. That's how I found out about it.

And then they said to their friends, "Hey, I know a cool place we can hang out at and nobody will hassle us."

And that was how people had found the place for years and years.

But this weird old fucker who had probably been hanging out there since he was their age and who had spent twenty years hanging out there every weekend bothering everyone with his bullshit antics & creeping on high school girls decided he was was going to stop them from intruding onto "his" territory.

What he was really concerned about was competing with younger, better-looking guys with better personalities for the affections of teenage girls.

He didn't "protect" the place, he destroyed it.

That's what a lot of modern fandom does. It destroys the thing it loves because it can't stand the thought of someone else enjoying it.


Cena_mark - 2020-04-28

Sometimes you have to destroy what you love to keep assholes from enjoying it. Like how the Soviets had to destroy their own fields and villages as they fell back so the Nazis couldn't use those resources. Chaos Symbol guy is a hero in a similar way.


Binro the Heretic - 2020-04-28

Except it wasn't his to destroy.

That's the whole point.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-28

This is about adolescence, and the search for identity. When you're still figuring out who who you are, you identify with the things you're into. So you defend them whether they need to defending or not. In the late 70's it was the anti-disco movement, which I identified with. More recently, it was Gamergate.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-26

People who are stupid and mean relating to Rick Sanchez, who is brilliant and mean, seems like textbook Dunning-Kruger, though I've never read a textbook about Dunning-Kruger.


garcet71283 - 2020-04-26

People relating to Rick Sanchez who is a narcissistic, manipulative, toxic, drug addled, abusive, suicidal alcoholic.


Cena_mark - 2020-04-26

Szechuan sauce!


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-26

I've loved Rick and Morty for about three years now. Only recently have I encountered the piece of shit part fanbase. There's a stream at Adult Swim's website, that runs the first three seasons in an endless loop, which is great!

Unfortunately, it comes with a chatroom. There were a lot of loathesome motherfuckers in there, but the one that stands out called himself "AbolishIslam". That's bad enough, but when no one reacted to his offensive username, he started gratuitously calling attention to it. I did not spend a lot of time in there.

There was also a dipshit I encountered, somewher on the web, ( Maybe Twitter?) who thought it was a devestating insult to call me "Summer", because Summer is, you know, a girl.


betamaxed - 2020-04-26

How to star this video:

Subject Matter: Rick & Morty - Automatic 2 star reduction -**
Video Producer: College Humor - Automatic 1 star reduction -*
Actual Video Content: Purposefully annoying to try to depict how annoying rick and morty fandom is but it still makes you hate it - 1 Star reduction -*

1/5 txt stars my friend. *


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-26

*(Insert crude, defiant Rick and Morty catch phrase here.)


SolRo - 2020-04-26

Suck it mainstream audience people!

Now you know what it’s like liking anime.


TeenerTot - 2020-04-27

Never seen it.


Meerkat - 2020-04-28

It's OK but Season Three blows. It pretty much turned me off, I haven't bothered watching any of Season Four. Or Season Glarbleblarb, whatever comes after Season Three on Alternate Universe Cable.


Maggot Brain - 2020-04-28

okay show that ran out of steam pretty fast- not going to watch this video.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-04-28

>>>okay show that ran out of steam pretty fast-

Not in THIS universe! Listen, you can hate Rick and Morty if you want to, but Season 3 was the best ever. Some classic episodes:

I'm going copy and paste some stuff from wikipedia here, since there's no guarantee anybody's going to rad this.

1. The Rickshank Rickdemption
This is my favorite, and it never gets old. One of the things I used to love about the Simpsons back in the day was the way was just how far a half hour show could take me with it's story. My favorite Simpsons episode, summarized by wikipedia:

https://tinyurl.com/y8fujql6

>>>In the episode, Homer is awarded US$2,000 in compensation after radiation from the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant causes him to become sterile. Homer's half-brother, Herb, now poor and homeless, hatches a plan to regain his wealth. Homer loans him $2,000 to develop a new product which translate baby babbling into speech that parents can understand. Herb's invention is hugely successful, allowing him to regain his fortune.

That's a pretty fast-paced twenty-two minutes, but it's really nothing compared to the third season premiere episode of Rick and Morty. Again, wikipedia:

https://tinyurl.com/ybubja57

>>>During Rick Sanchez's incarceration, the Galactic Federation has colonized Earth and the Smith family attempts to cope with his absence. Summer exhumes the remains of alternate Rick in their backyard, intending to use his portal gun and rescue him. Morty, however, attempts to reveal Rick's shortcomings to Summer by taking her to his original dimension - now a universe where Earth has been transformed into a wasteland by a virus turning all humans to hideous monsters as a consequence of Rick's carelessness (referred to as "the Cronenberg World"). All the while, Galactic Federation scientists attempt to discover the secret to Rick's portal gun by sending alien Cornvelious Daniel into his mind to interrogate him, using mental images from his past.

>>>Morty and Summer are captured by the Smith family of the Cronenberg World, but are saved by SEAL Team Ricks, who send the two to the Council of Ricks. Upon learning that Rick was captured, Seal Team Ricks announce their plan to dispatch a team to assassinate him. At the prison, Rick deceives the Galactic Federation into believing he divulged the secrets of his portal gun. With their guard lowered, Rick hacks into Federation technology to switch bodies with his captors. His actual body is shot by a member of SEAL Team Ricks, who arrive at his holding area unaware that he is still alive.

>>>>Rick transfers his consciousness into one of the SEAL Team Ricks and kills the others. He infiltrates the Citadel of Ricks, and manages to teleport the station into the same space as the Federation prison. This propels both sides into a massive battle; Rick then uses the ensuing chaos to rescue Morty and Summer and kill the Council of Ricks. In the confusion, Rick enters the Federation mainframe—-revealed to be his reason for turning himself in. He uses this access to make the galactic currency worthless, thereby destroying the Federation's economy. The Galactic Federation falls into chaos and collapses as a result, with the aliens leaving Earth.

>>>>Heralded a hero by Summer and Beth, Rick returns to the Smith household where Jerry issues Beth an ultimatum: choose him or Rick. Rick, Summer and Morty step away to the garage rather than participate in the impending argument. A short while later, Beth announces she is leaving Jerry. As the new status quo is established and Rick is left alone with Morty, he reveals to Morty that his ulterior motive was to make both the Galactic Federation and Jerry "go away", punishing Jerry for his betrayal by threatening to turn him in to the government in the second-season finale and ensuring his role as Morty's de facto male influence. This devolves into Rick going on a monologue, in homage to his rant at the conclusion of the pilot episode, about how their adventures are bound to be darker than before. Rick also professes his passion for the Szechuan Sauce once available at McDonald's as a promotional item for the 1998 film Mulan, much to Morty's confusion.

>>>>In the post-credits scene, Tammy observes Birdperson's resurrection as a cyborg dubbed "Phoenix Person".

Sorry about the copypasta, but I don't want to be typing all night: Wikipedia again:

>>>A critical success, "The Rickshank Rickdemption" was praised as one of the series' best episodes, with Jesse Schedeen of IGN saying it was "keeping the level of quality high".[8] Critics cited the episode's dark undertones and unique insight into Rick's psyche.

>>>>IGN's Jesse Schedeen wrote in his review "Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon managed to craft a conflict that was hilarious, darkly poignant and completely unlike anything fans were expecting".He also praised the episode's ability to defy expectations while offering "a grim portrait of a mad scientist who hates everyone else almost as much as he hates himself". Zach Blumenfeld of Paste called "The Rickshank Rickdemption" the "top of all animated television", an episode that saw deeper character development and humor that rivaled "Total Rickall" and "Meeseeks and Destroy". Den of Geek writer Joe Matar observed "previous Rick and Morty plot developments, reminding us of the show’s commitment to its persistent multiverse" in a premiere he considered as the series' best.

The rest will be brief

3. Pickle Rick

Rick turning himself into a pickle is not exactly genius. What IS exactly genius is Rick turning himself into a pickle in order to avoid family therapy, and then being forced to fight his way back to humanity through roaches, rats, and finally a nest of international spies, to family therapy in order to survive. The therapist turns out to be pretty insightful, but Rick and Beth, having learned nothing dismiss her, and decide to go get drunk together.

4. Vindicators 3

Beautiful sendup of the MCU. Let me sum it up in a line from Morty:

"Rick, you managed to destroy everything today: the heroes, the villains, the line between the two."

I haven't made up my mind about season 4 yet. Objectively it seems great, but emotionally, nothing can live up to all that anticipation.


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