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Binro the Heretic - 2021-04-20

I'm not listening to this asshole blather for one hour and forty minutes.


Cena_mark - 2021-04-21

What's wrong with her? I like her videos.


themilkshark - 2021-04-21

Seconded, Lindsay Ellis is awesome


Hazelnut - 2021-04-21

I kinda agree with you both: I really like Linday Ellis, AND I can't find 1h40m for this video. If it were January amidst full lockdown it would be a different story.


Lef - 2021-04-20

5 for the banality of our species.

Binro, you did good skipping this.


jfcaron_ca - 2021-04-20

I watched a bunch of this and I still have no idea who this person is or what's going on aside from normal twitter drama.


Anaxagoras - 2021-04-21

She started out her youtube "career" by creating many, many kinda irritating short reviews of movies under the pseudonym "Nostalgia Chick". Then she spent a couple years putting out much better, slightly longer reviews of movies under her real name. For the past couple years, she's been putting out much, much longer deep dive videos about various things movie-related that are fantastic. Only the deep dive videos are available on her "Lindsey Ellis" account.... I don't know where her other videos are located.

Unfortunately, she then got a more normal job writing books or something, and most of the stuff she's posted over the past year is about twitter drama, or sophomoric thoughts on modern society... or something. I don't know. She's an intelligent, thoughtful woman, but when she strays away from movies, her content becomes much less interesting.


jfcaron_ca - 2021-04-21

Thanks.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-22

It's a very cogent discussion, a deep dive into "Normal Twitter Drama", which ran things around here for the last four years, in case you didn't notice. You're entitled to think this is boring, but you're a fool if you don't think it matters. It matters because it's normal.

Anyway, here's the bullet point, the two and a half minutes that I will be shoving in everyone's face, possibly until I croak. This is the best explication I've ever seen, of what is holding us all back. This is something I've struggled to articulate myself, but never quite this well.

https://youtu.be/HeK7fsVasgg


garcet71283 - 2021-04-20

Who?

Also, I think 35 is when you officially get old. I read some article today about a YouTuber who apparently sexted some teenagers and it's a thing because he has a line of makeup?

Damn kids with their satan shoes, twitters, and onlyfans.

Get off my lawn.


love - 2021-04-21

kids are vaping each other venmos on tik tok and shit.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

Well , I listened to the whole thing through twice, and it was entertaining as hell. I've never seen her this angry, and that makes her really funny., but the most valuable part of the video is her analysis of racism. That's in the first 15 minutes.


themilkshark - 2021-04-21

I enjoy her take on things


Lef - 2021-04-21

She has some alright videos, and that's why I watched a chunk of this, often at x2 speeds.

Too much drama over something I can't bring myself to care about. It's like the local bar-fly that starts chatting about her nonsensical daily happenings, and she just doesn't shut up.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

>>>>Too much drama over something I can't bring myself to care about. It's like the local bar-fly that starts chatting about her nonsensical daily happenings, and she just doesn't shut up.

Jesus Christ.

She's talking about racism. RACISM, GUYS! She's talking quite lucidly about how white people don't get it, and how the taboo prevents us from ever getting it. Now, as the video progresses, it becomes more specific to her, but its all illustrative of her main point. WE ALL HAVE THE STINK ON US, and the taboo is preventing us from acknowledging that.


Hazelnut - 2021-04-21

Okay, because it’s JHM, I watched the first half hour....

....and he’s right! She shares some good insightful shit without being pompous or self-pitying (in the first half hour). I know PoeTV has a ‘too cool to care’ crowd, but fuck that.


Lef - 2021-04-21

JHM, I did 5 star her.

But, seriously, she starts talking about herself, how she's twitter cancelled, how stupid the whole thing is, and it drags on and on.

So what if it's about a perceived racist tweet? It's her tweet, and her boring story.

5 stars for evil.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

>>>>So what if it's about a perceived racist tweet? It's her tweet, and her boring story.

What you choose to think is interesting is you own business, but you're wildly crazily, objectively wrong. It's not about a racist tweet, it's about RACISM. Anything that is discussed is put in the larger context of the BIG PROBLEM, which she expresses quite eloquently, using English words, which, for whatever reason, you did not hear.

I'm not taking it personally that you didn't like my submission, and I'm not white knighting for Lindsey Ellis. I am not immune to such irrational motives, but not this time. This time, I am simply overwhelmed at how very very WRONG you are.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

Sorry Lef. Its not you that I'm mad at.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

Yeah, the first half hour is what really counts. Later on, she addresses the things she's being attacked for, and I found that interesting as hell, and she has every right to do that, but it's not why I submitted this so enthusiastically, or why I voted for it immediately, which I don't usually do with my submissions.

Lindsey is usually very reserved about her personal life, but she's very open here about her sexuality, her relationships, and about being raped in college. If you've been watching her for years without knowing any of this, its pretty riveting, but it's also very thoughtful. She's never indiscreet, she's not an exhibitionist. She says what she needs to say, and no more.

For me, Lindsey Ellis, Natalie of Counterpoints, and HBomberguy represent the promise of the internet kept, for once. You can't get this kind 9f intellectual connection from PBS, or even NPR, but the funny thing about Lindsey Ellis is that I'm really not interested in anything she wants to talk about. I don't give a shit about Disney, or Phantom, or Rent, but I'll listen anyway, and I'm always glad I did.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

Here's something I just uploaded, and I also submitted it. It's a two and a half minute highlight from this video. It loses some of its impact this way, but it's to the point, and it's important. It's the motherfucking truth.

https://youtu.be/HeK7fsVasgg


Braze - 2021-04-21

Thanks for the coles notes bro
Nobody should ever be on twitter, that place is nasty as fuck, and I say this as a longtime veteran of being a fuck online


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-21

Yeah, I'm starting to reconsider twitter. Twitter has more uses than some people think, but the internet has created an economy of anger. Anger is an easy way to drive engagement, and engagement has become all-important, because it can be measured. So anger becomes a big factor in Every company's quest for the anti-life algorithm.

You Tube has improved, in my opinion, by refining their algorithm and demonitizing some bad content. Once upon a time, a person could make a decent living cranking out nasty videos about Anita Sarkeesian, and most of them would end up in my recommendations,where I would click on them immediately out of rage, before I could stop myself.


Crackersmack - 2021-04-22

holy shit John the level of knowledge you have about 20-something e-girls is disturbing


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-22

First of all, SugarSmacks, she's 36.

And I know what in the goddammit video, because I watched the goddammit video.

I can't tell whether Nominal, for example, is being a misogynist douche, or just a regular, generic douche, but this is not what nominal thinks it is.

Once again, here is the bullet point.

https://youtu.be/HeK7fsVasgg


Crackersmack - 2021-04-22

cool story john

so how much of her hair do you have?


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-22

Tucker Carlson says that he's "color blind"

Last week, I got into an argument with a guy in YouTube comments who insisted that an SNL video satirizing Baby Boomers is essentially the same thing as racism.

The other day I saw a quote from Rand Paul, who says that his kids don't even see race, because that's how much progress we've made.

And then I saw this video, and I was excited to find such a perfectly articulated response to all this staggering ignorance. I was excited to share it.

I am white, aging, a man of means by no means, but I can still feel the privilege. Here I am, trying to make a serious point about racism on my favorite left leaning website, and I was just asked "how much of her hair do you have?" I'm so frustrated, I could rip through crackersmack's jugular with my teeth.

I have to ask myself: How do people of color do it? How do they get through life without shooting up a WalMart?


Marlon Brawndo - 2021-04-22

Oh look the left is eating itself alive again. Looks like it's back to normal!


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-23

Actually, I just ordered a pizza.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-23

Really, I'm fine. I just took my link to Facebook, where I could get some more intelligent, good faith discussion.


Cena_mark - 2021-04-23

Left eating each other? It's just a minor YouTube celebrity dealing with a few trolls. She explains in the video that a good portion of those trying to cancel her are altright types.


Nominal - 2021-04-22

White girl with very important feelings.


Cena_mark - 2021-04-23

She does. She's quite intelligent


snothouse - 2021-04-24

Wasn't familiar with her stuff, didn't think I'd watch the whole thing, but I did. Interesting stuff. I am so happy I don't spill my guts on a popular channel, I couldn't handle it. And I get to be a straight white guy.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-28

In retrospect, I think the reason why the reception of this meticulous and insightful video essay was so much more hostile than it deserved was the use of "canceled", a term that has been weaponized by the right. Its unfortunate, because this is something that really happens and for.some reason it usually happens to minority voices. They used to call it the liberal circular firing squad.

We tried to clean up racism in one generation. And what happened was that we swept racism under the rug by making it the strongest taboo in our society. What if a racist was the worst thing anyone could be, but everybody was a little bit racist? There would be no introspection, and lots of finger pointing.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-04-28

It's not her feelings that are important, its her observations. I can't overstate it. This is something Ive been trying to articulate, and/waiting to hear, just about forever. This is why we are stuck.


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