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Desc:The infamous review that supposedly got Jeff Gerstmann fired
Category:Video Games, News & Politics
Tags:review, eidos, Jeff Gerstmann, Kane and Lynch, Gamespot
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Caminante Nocturno - 2007-12-02
Maybe if he'd dressed nice instead of running around in a t-shirt like an uncivilized brute, he'd still have his job.
IrishWhiskey - 2007-12-02
That assumes that those who weren't fired dressed any better. Which I somewhat doubt.

Game reviews aren't exactly "journalism" in my book, but what CNET Gamespot did here is shady as hell. Despite days of criticism, even having to shut down parts of their site, they still have refused to deny that this review was why he was fired, or put back up this video review.

Caminante Nocturno - 2007-12-03
I'm not taking a single word you say to me seriously until you tuck your damned shirt in!

SolRo - 2007-12-03
you couldn't even see below his chest, you old man who tucks in T-shirts and watches kiddie anime.

Ghoul - 2007-12-02
Maybe next time Eidos will spend their money developing and testing a decent game instead of promoting the hell out of pieces of complete garbage like this.
Stopheles - 2007-12-02
None of it seemed out of line, aside from maybe the line "it's a good idea that unfortunately is in the service of this flawed game."
theSnake - 2007-12-02
I can tell games like this and Assassins Creed are terrible without even playing them just by the commercials. They're just trying so fucking hard to look cool. The whole thing just smacks of effort, then you see a gameplay clip and its just Final Fight button mashing with nicer graphics.
Eurhetemec - 2007-12-02
Assassin's Creed is actually pretty good.

FABIO2 - 2007-12-02
You could tell Assassin's Creed wasn't going to be very good the instant you read about the project lead's extreme love of snuff film.

But yeah, every preview video after that was some gay slo-mo sword fight set to awful music.

Adramelech - 2007-12-02
The Assassin's Creed advertising campaign is absolutely awful and I really have no idea where they were going with it as the game itself doesn't fit that mold at all. It actually uses pretty authentic feeling rhythmic sword combat with no slow motion in sight.

baleen - 2007-12-02

oh yeah this infamous game review.
Chet - 2007-12-02
Your ignorance on a subject is no reason to give single stars.

Stog - 2007-12-02
Dicks for you

baleen - 2007-12-02


StanleyPain - 2007-12-02
If he really did get fired for this, then it's one of the stupidest advertising-vs.-journalism issues in recent gaming media memory. The review wasn't even that bad. They guy really just says "I don't think the game is very good, so I recommend you not get it." It could have been far worse, as the new trend in gaming journalism is to either be up-in-your-face in favor of a title or pull some Angry game nerd bullshit and try dismantling the game with wit, which usually ends in disaster. This is pretty tame.
sosage - 2007-12-02
New trend? That has been pretty standard post Internet and OMM/Seanbaby, in that everyone wishes they could emulate their wit and style when writing a negative review. Hell, even before OMM/SB, but they just happened to ratchet up every critic's desire to come off funny and entertaining while reviewing shit games.

Monchiles Monchiles - 2007-12-02
This is the way that a good game review should be.
baleen - 2007-12-02

Why is this interesting? I really don't understand.
EvilHomer - 2007-12-02
According to Wikipedia, the company which made the game (Eidos) was paying lots of money to advertise on whatever website this review appeared on. Shortly after the review aired, Ecko Shirt Man got fired, and now nerds the world over are demanding Great Justice for what appears to be a sinister case of corporate sponsor dick-sucking.

I'm giving this three stars for the drama, but when I see a video-game review site controversy, I want to it to be a bit more spectacular. Could Jeff Gerstmann at least turn up dead in Los Angeles Harbor?

baleen - 2007-12-03

Ok, so game reviews are mostly just propped up advertisements from game companies like they've pretty much always been since I was a kid when I cared, and this guy was a Seymour Hersh of game reviews and he said the work FUCK and got fired.

Good. I can die knowing that my one star is deserved.

Robin Kestrel - 2007-12-02
Seems like a pretty balanced review to me. I mean, this is exactly the stuff I need to know before buying the game.

If it really is the reason he got canned, then I guess Gamespot should put up a disclaimer on future reviews that says "PAID ADVERTISMENT".
Hooker - 2007-12-02
I can't believe this is actually pulling down a decent score on poeTV. I was actually going to post this back when the story broke, but figured it would get a bunch of blank stares on poeTV.

Oh well.
Adramelech - 2007-12-02
I'm happy that Jeff Gerstmann will no longer be able to put out some of the most factually incorrect, uninformed game "reviews" in the history of the internet, but still - sponsor cock sucking is a no go.
JimBeam - 2007-12-02
Review is boring and doesn't really answer any questions other than 'What does some dickhole with a bad haircut think about this game?'
SolRo - 2007-12-02
Like what questions doesn't it anwswer?

"Is K&L an awesome game, or The most awesome game?"

TinManic - 2007-12-02
i'm curious too, what else do you want to know? he talked about the game play mechanics, the multiplayer, the story elements, what's interesting about the game and gives a recommendation on whether or not you should buy it. i haven't played the game but he game me a good idea of what he thought of it. perhaps it's you who don't know what review is supposed to be.

TinManic - 2007-12-02
or you work for Eidos.

Pandatronic - 2007-12-03
I'd like to think that you'd need some sort of qualification to make a living reviewing games, but there's nothing differentiating this guy from the thousands of no-charisma game reviewers on YouTube. There's no trace of professional writing or acting, just some dickhole with a bad haircut telling you what he thinks about a game, the difference being at some point somebody arbitrarily decided to pay him to do it for their company.

SolRo - 2007-12-03
What qualifications do you think one needs to review games?

The only one I can think of is; has played lots of games.

Everything else is frosting on the cake.

Hooker - 2007-12-03
As far as I know, the vast majority of people at EGM, IGN, Gamespot, and so forth (these days) come up from the fansites, which work somewhat like a farm system. So, there is a weeding-out process in place. It's not like they just pick someone off the street.

JimBeam - 2007-12-03
The complaints don't explain why these bad things are bad. For example, the aiming is terrible. Really? How? I don't know if it's due to perspective, hit detection, if you have to play the entire game in that over the shoulder view or if there's an FPS option, or if recoil is extremely exaggerated or what.

All I understand from this is that there's a lot of cursing and one person didn't like it for reasons that are just briefly touched on.

Maggot Brain - 2007-12-03
Why was he fired over this?
Hooper_X - 2007-12-03
Well, sucks to be him, but let me consider exactly how surprised I am by this shocking development....

Yeah. That's about it. (seriously, though, that "heist" mode does look fun, if it were implemented in a better game. maybe as an HL2 mod or something.)
Adramelech - 2007-12-04

GameSpot's official reply if anyone is feeling a taste for massive damage control bullshit.
Grace Mugabe - 2007-12-08
Is anyone even vaguely suprised by this?
Pillager - 2008-03-03
Disappointed, actually.

Chinballs - 2009-01-26
This game sucked. I can't find any more words to describe how bad it is.
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