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Desc:the classic russian roulette scene from the deer hunter
Category:Classic Movies
Tags:walken, the deer hunter, de niro
Submitted:gron
Date:12/14/07
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Comment count is 15
Angel Carver - 2007-12-14
This scene is so inarguably a classic scene that I can't even minus stars from my rating for its off-the-charts racism.
ZawBanjito - 2007-12-14
What racism? You mean the old embarrassing stereotype that the Vietcong were our enemy in the Vietnam War?

Randroid - 2007-12-14
The vietnamese, such a cruel race.
Seriously though, great scene.

eatenmyeyes - 2007-12-15
They aren't cruel. They just love to gamble.

coprolalia - 2007-12-14
A man's sport!
EvilHomer - 2007-12-14
This was one of the most excruciatingly boring movies I've ever had the misfortune of watching, but these wonderful minutes in the middle more than made up for the rest of the film.

Thank God for 'Nam!
Stopheles - 2007-12-14
It pains me that I can't find the Russian Roulette scene from "Meet the Feebles" on Youtube.
Camonk - 2007-12-14
Were you looking for a reason that de Niro and Walken are basically legends automatically given 5 stars if they show up in a video? This is pretty much it.
Angel Carver - 2007-12-14
ZawBanito, really? The VC in this scene aren't in combat, they're not acting out of military motive...they aren't even human. They are just pure American-nightmare pointlessly sadistic gooks. That's what makes it, you know, racist.

Still five stars.
EvilHomer - 2007-12-14
That sounds like commie talk to me! You VC, huh? You numba one, or numba ten?

ZawBanjito - 2007-12-14
Oh, I ardently disagree. A movie like Green Berets dehumanized the Vietnamese by keeping them far at a distance, soulless kill-bots opposed only by valiant American heroes. Even so-called anti-war films like Platoon, and especially Apocalypse Now, are far more racist than this, displaying the Vietnamese as inscrutable cyphers, blank backgrounds for the white characters to simply act against. In this scene you get a great amount of humanity shown. You get a clear sense of personality for each individual Vietnamese. You are given clear signs of actual human life in every shot - food, clothing, etc. The film revolves around a theme of the dehumanization of ordinary men in the time of war. What this scene shows is a bunch of individuals - clear individuals all - that have been dehumanized in this way. Everyone in this scene is an animal, reduced to animal cunning. An easy reflexive action to take is: can we imagine the Vietcong being replaced with Americans and the situation being reversed without substantial change? For me, the answer is so easily yes, because we know Americans are easily capable of it. So again, I think you're really stretching this here. The VC committed many acts of sadistic torture against American prisoners during the war, acts which have even been admitted to by the Vietnamese government. Americans also committed similarly sadistic acts, which have been similarly well documented and owned to. So having a scene with VC torture isn't in itself a racist act. You're going to have to point to something really specific here for me to see what you're seeing.

Angel Carver - 2007-12-14
Wow Zaw. Not to start off by changing the subject, but may I like commend you for the good faith of your comment? That was an exceedingly civil response to my--borderline nitwitty--comments. Your good faith was misplaced, as I was speaking pretty lightly and without even bothering to watch the scene again before commenting. I haven't seen the movie in many years; I recall forming a vague argument about this sequence being a questionable/manipulative one at the time, but the racism of this short clip is not nearly as glaring as I remembered...in fact, I think this scene had blurred in my memory with its (recently posted) parody from "Meet the Feebles," with its intentionally fish-eyed and over-the-top cartoon racism. So, until I watch the movie again, I'm prepared to retract all charges.

Dammit, couldn't you have just let me be glib?!



ZawBanjito - 2007-12-15
LOL. No worries. We all care about racism and how it makes us feel guilty about the films we love. Any way we have to argue out of it, I say take it.

FABIO2 - 2008-02-22
It is my dream to someday travel to south east Asia where I can attend an underground gambling ring and shout while waving around wads of cash.
Dinkin Flicka - 2009-12-06
I can't believe none of these comments only contain the words "dee dee mao!"
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