Stopheles Well, Jourgenson treaded the line between 'insincere' and 'wannabe' for a long time before he aspired greatness for three albums in the late 80s to early 90s.
Gunny McRifleson Synth-pop era Ministry is so underrated. I'd rather listen to this and With Sympathy than Twitch or his crappy post-Animositisomina sludge metal.