|The Great Hippo - 2008-03-07 |
Kind of a semi-spoiler, but goddamn if this didn't make me cry like the simpering little girl I am.
Also HURR HURR HURR NOW THEY ALL DIE THANKS TO RADIATION RAINING DOWN FROM SPACE HURR HURR HURR.
|bopeton - 2008-03-08 |
This movie is underrated. If you haven't seen the whole thing, don't watch this clip, but watch the whole thing. If this scene doesn't make your eyes water after you see what the Giant has learned from Horgarth, and the aspects of himself he revealed in the minutes before this clip, then congratulations Cobra Commander. The Giant chooses between being an instrument of power and senseless destruction, and one of salvation for the innocent.
The Great Hippo
And you know, I wouldn't even say that there's a real 'GUNS R BAD' theme running through this movie--the hunters that the Iron Giant encounters aren't villainized, the general (who brings LOTS of guns :D) is a good guy, and the main antagonist probably couldn't handle a firecracker without fainting. The Iron Giant doesn't like guns, but this has more to do with the nature of his identity than the 'evilness' of guns in general.
The Great Hippo
Actually nevermind. I just saw one of the conversations near the end (right before this scene) and you're absolutely right; it's hamfisted as hell.
Totally. Brad Bird makes great movies, but his weakness is that his moralizing always comes off as hamfisted: the "Saying everyone's super means that nobody is!" speech from The Incredibles, the 5 minute-long monologue on critics in Rataouille, and so on.
It's kind of ham-fisted, but not too bad. Remember, the giant is basically made out of guns, but he uses it to accomplish something good in the end.
The whole point of both Robert Hughes' book and the movie is, "What if a weapon chose not to be a weapon?" It's sort of hard not to make that a "Guns are Bad" message. Plus it's a kids movie, for god's sakes.
Incidentally, the plot to the Jason Bourne movies is also "What if a weapon chose not to be a weapon?" I always thought they had a surprising amount in common with The Iron Giant.
|Shion - 2008-03-08 |
God I love this movie.
|Rodents of Unusual Size - 2008-03-08 |
Excuse me...I just have to...(veclempt sounds)
|Millard - 2008-03-08 |
It's getting a little dusty in here.
|Aubrey McFate - 2008-03-08 |
I hate the awkward "I love you" line they have to insert into scenes like this. Silence is so much more poignant.
Anyways, I'm not a total cynic. 5 stars.
Agreed, completely. It's better if you imagine that line edited out.
Everything else in this scene is perfect.
|TeenerTot - 2008-03-08 |
|Angel Carver - 2008-03-08 |
The only scene in a movie that makes me cry harder than this scene is the next scene in this movie.
Are you talking about
The scattered pieces crawling back to each other? Now that I think about it, that wasn't necessary. It kind of (though not completely) ruins the whole 'heroic sacrifice' angle. The good guys don't always have to survive.
I always figured they were leaving the door open for a sequel, where Hogarth and the Jaw Bolt go on a hijinks-filled trip to Antarctica to reassemble the Giant.
|Angel Carver - 2008-03-08 |
That's what I'm talking about. I can't quite justify why I feel that scene is so beautiful and so justified when it could so easily be considered a "tacked-on happy ending."
Oh wait, I think I can: for one thing, the whole automated reassembly thing has been well prepared for in the movie, and (ESPECIALLY) because Bird had the brilliance and the good taste to close on the exact moment of resurrection. If it had been "I'm back, let's go play in the scrap heap!" "Yay!" it wouldn't be nearly as effective.
|RockBolt - 2008-03-08 |
Dammit.. allergies must be acting up...
|cognitivedissonance - 2008-03-08 |
Brad Bird makes one good movie and then spends the rest of his career making movies about what an unappreciated genius he is.
|Corplos - 2008-03-08 |
Dammit why'd i have to cut these onions in front of my computer?
|Rafiki - 2008-03-09 |
I'm kinda disappointed the iron giant didn't yell GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and then slam his giant fist on Opie.
|Gwago - 2008-03-09 |
Ouch! No "I love you" return.
|thebaronsdoctor - 2008-03-29 |
I just wanted to remind everyone that Pete Tonshend was an executive producer on this movie.
Also this is a triumph of American animation.
|Caminante Nocturno - 2009-04-16 |
I always try to watch this movie immediately after watching Grave of the Fireflies.
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