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Desc:Stephen Murdoch discusses the eugenics programs in the Germany and U.S. and their link to IQ Tests
Category:Educational, Horror
Tags:stephen murdoch, IQ Test, eugenics
Submitted:Moustache McGillicuddy
Date:05/28/08
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Comment count is 33
kingarthur
Okay, gonna go out on a limb here: Our normative samples are much, much better today and we're aware of chemical imbalances and how they can affect the outcome of an IQ test as well as the needed awareness for cultural differences. Given the rate at which the world is breeding, is it so wrong to say that anyone with an IQ below 100 should be sterilized? Okay 90? do I hear an 80?
fermun
You realize that below 100 would be people with 50th percentile or lower? That test would sterilize half the population.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
It would also spell the doom of Fox News and American Idol.

kingarthur
EXACTLY. On both counts.

Sudan no1
good job missing the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbakB41A-cw

Cleaner82
My IQ is abysmally low. I would have survived neither Nazi Germany nor the reign of Kingarthur.

kingarthur
Hey now...I didn't say we'd kill you. I just said we'd sterilize. Think about it: all the average joes and morons can fuck with no consequences other than social disease!

kingarthur
OK, Sudan. So we'll freeze some eggs and sperm if somebody wants a do-over.

Sudan no1
ok then, good job ignoring the point for "lulz"

glendower
I'll go out on a limb and assume you're serious and offer a replay: This type of thing is totalitarian in nature. It goes against the modern ideals of individual freedom and the freedom to have anonymous sex and accidentally procreate. As stated in the vid, America performed sterilizations in the first half of the 1900s and it turned out to be an ugly chapter in our history. The other thing is, I've met plenty of "low iq" people who are intelligent in other ways and who are also productive members of society. And, by the way, aren't many of society's most destructive figures people of a relatively high iq? Why, then, is one iq type necessarily better than another? Aside from the tricky question of philosophical value judgments, this kind of policy leads to a host of practical dilemmas. How do we write the tests? Who administers the tests? Do we some day sterilize criminals or the poor?

futurebot
I'm sure people with a low IQ would like to sterilize you, too. Lets just nobody sterilize anybody and call it even.

Ersatz
Our very definition of intelligence sucks. No single person can come up with a non-trivial definition of intelligent that includes everyone that person wants to include nor excludes everyone that person wants to exclude. And no two people can even make their erratic and uncomprehensive standards of intelligence agree.

And now you want to take away something so fundamental it's not even just a human right, it's a very right of ours as living beings of any species, the right to reproduce, based on the outcome of an objective test of a subjective idea, likely developed by some grad student assistant of a social-science professor, and approved by a committee of politicians?

That's technocracy at its absolute worst.

Big Name Celebrity
How about if we just sterilize everyone who watched "Friends"?

KnowFuture
Wacky Clip Image Mixup: the still for "Coach McGuirk On Losing" popped up for this clip on the main PoE page.
FABIO2
I wouldn't call being sterilized "losing", more like getting benched during the big biological playoffs.

FABIO2
This is what Idiocracy fans actually believe.
Terminal Button
Wait, what do I believe?

zatojones
I don't remember anything about sterilization in Idiocracy. I do remember a fair bit about trying to convince people of the importance of keeping the level of discourse in society to something above "Ouch My Balls".

Billy Buttsex
THE NAZIS WERE IN FAVOR OF EUGENICS, SO WE MUST GIVE HANDOUTS TO ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN.

That's where this guy was going with this.
zatojones
does it hurt you to be that stupid?

Cleaner82
I must confess I'm a little confused as to what you're trying to say Bill. Handouts? It seemed to me he was just saying how IQ was being used as a worth-measuring system, and how wrong that was.

smoothbrain
god damn you are a fucking retard

Billy Buttsex
Actually, I was joking, but now that you've dragged me into saying more, I should mention that people just went in the opposite direction the Nazis went, after a couple of decades of anti-Nazi shouting from Jewish filmmakers, and now we have subsidies for people with low IQs who make illegitimate children. Basically, that's true.

I realize the guy didn't say any of that, but I was just adding on "what he would say since he's a liebaral."

smoothbrain
You say something extremely stupid, then manage to follow it up with something even more nonsensical in defense of your original, retarded point? What the fuck are you even talking about?

Billy Buttsex
You're embarassingly ignorant.

smoothbrain
Are you going to explain yourself? It seems pretty clear who is stupid but maybe you're "just joking" again?

Cleaner82
Well he did say that now he was joking, though the joke was vague... but in any case here is his actual, serious statement. Lets see if we can unravel it.

It appears to me that Billy believes that since World War II, Jewish filmmakers have deviously convinced the US -- through propaganda films such as Indiana Jones-- not to murder people with low IQs. Instead, the Washington fatcats at the behest of our evil hollywood Jewish overlords hand out sacks of money to idiots, thus encouraging them with their free handout money to buy sexual intercourse and to not get married. Is that more or less the size of it?

Billy Buttsex
Cleaner 82 and I are going to write a book about it! Then you'll see who is the stupid one! Thank you Cleaner 82 for seeing the truth and being willing to stand against commies like smoothbrain.

Cleaner82
As long as we're not just HANDING the book out to illigitemate children.

Hooker
Why do you guys keep validating Billy?

Cleaner82
I'm going to hazard, for idle entertainment.

smoothbrain
Billy the troll kind of lost it's magic there at the end, what happened?

chumbucket
Question 1: "what did Neville Chamberlain do?"
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