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baleen - 2008-09-03

Well, I don't see this getting too much mainstream press. While I like some of Goodman's stuff, she does some pretty crazy stunts, like giving a Pacifica news press card to Ralph Nader so that he could get into the Republican National Convention in 2000 and talk to journalists. Why would a journalist do that? Particularly one that is working for public radio? She can be overly aggressive and gung ho. This in no way justifies her treatment, but her motivations and goals are not unbiased and I doubt we're seeing the whole story of why her press card was taken from her. Her own bosses stripped her of a DNC press pass in 2000 because of what she pulled with Nader.

This is not to say that she is not an amazing journalist with a good heart and ovaries of steel.

glasseye - 2008-09-03

Yeah, she pushes the envelope. I'd say the cops have been a bit overly aggressive and gung ho too lately...

baleen - 2008-09-03

See comment below.

dueserpenti - 2008-09-03

If there's one thing cops hate, it's the law.

If there's one thing I hate, it's cops.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2008-09-03

I feel a lot of anger over these clips because when people defend the actions of cops pulling this shit then it means we are one step away from the way they handle this shit in China.

Yeah, have fun with that America.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

They didn't show what happened before she was arrested. I'll bet she ran past the cops who told her to stay put.


Rodents of Unusual Size - 2008-09-03

You'll change your tune when you're thrown down onto the sidewalk for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, asshole.

But no, you can talk shit about "they probably deserved it" until you're blue in the face. You're the worst thing about America because you're an unashamed apologist for everything that we SHOULD BE in outrage over.

You are spineless bitch.

charmlessman - 2008-09-03

Billy... *sigh*
Regardless of what happened before the cameras rolled, she wasn't doing anything illegal. Just because a cop decides she's broken the law doesn't mean she's broken a law. It's painfully obvious that the cops at the RNC have been given carte blanche to steamroll whoever they feel. It's illegal and unconstitutional.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2008-09-03

You are A spineless bitch.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

You guys are morons. Even baleen agrees that she overstepped her boundaries after they asked her nicely.

baleen - 2008-09-03

Unfortunately if the Republicans want to have a completely controlled media event where only the people they like are allowed into the ring, they have a right to do that.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

Baleen, I knew you could be sane.

baleen - 2008-09-03

You're still a racist, clueless retard.

CornOnTheCabre - 2008-09-03


its pretty obvious he just gets a big, healthy jizz on whenever a liberal or a woman is assaulted, so this must be the best wank to come along for months now.


fermun - 2008-09-03

I love the cop saying "you are violating my constitutional rights" as he arrests her. It's like the South Park episode where Jimbo and Ned say it's legal to kill any animal so long as you shout "it's coming right for us!"

Meerkat - 2008-09-03

Well, to be fair, she was coming right for them.

StanleyPain - 2008-09-03

That voice was actually one of Amy Goodman's producers who, I think, was the one filming. He was there before her demanding the release of the two journalists they had beaten up. For some reason the cops didn't come down on him, possibly due to the camera which had a strange effect on many of the riot cops that day judging from some of the footage I have seen.

fermun - 2008-09-03

Correct my misconceptions will ya? YOU'RE VIOLATING MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

glendower - 2008-09-03

Cops who act like this are just being pussies. They're so freaked out by the large crowd that they start arresting, pepper spraying everyone. But these actions only enrage the protesters further. Oh well, I'm sure Amy Goodman and others who were falsely arrested can sue the pants off these guys.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

Dude, the cops don't pay for it. YOU do. You should demand the rest of the footage.

baleen - 2008-09-03

Yes, she actually jumped the perimeter line, which is evident in footage preceding the beating footage. The cops asked her to please respect the perimeter where the rest of the journalists were.

I wish she had mentioned that she jumped the fence.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

People on the left and right can be full of shit, which is why smart people ask all the questions without assuming totalitarianism. If this lady was in charge, we'd have WAY more of a controlled police state, guaranteed.

Janusian Soul - 2008-09-03

You'd think a journalist of her experience would understand the police wouldn't appreciate her interference with the searching of the residence.

Billy Buttsex - 2008-09-03

Stop giving her the benefit of the doubt because she's a "experienced journalist." She jumped the line to get arrested and then omitted and manipulated the evidence to garner support. She's a conwoman.

baleen - 2008-09-03

This woman is greatly responsible for the liberation of East Timor. I know you don't really value journalism or free expression very much. Just shut up Billy. The fact that your coup de poetv is based on an event wherein group of pretty innocuous journalists GOT THE SHIT BEAT OUT OF THEM should tell you something about yourself.

anotherdeadhero - 2008-09-03

Few more months, then poe comments will be back to funny.

StanleyPain - 2008-09-03

My comment on all of this would be this:
What is going on at the RNC is unquestionably something given the tacit approval and encouragement of Republicans who wish to silence dissent, period. I'm not going to throw around loaded phrases like "police state" because clearly this is a situation that, for the moment, is obviously engineered in this city on purpose. This is about more than just Amy Goodman, who made out relatively well compared to the other people still being held for no reason other than engaging in legal protest, same as at the RNC in 2004 where in order to avoid being protest they arrested so many people they had to just dump them in a warehouse.
There are numerous underlying issues here, including the relationship between the police force and an obvious agenda to prevent free speech from going on around the RNC, and of course the police themselves who were clearly out of control (see the videos of bike cops leaving their posts to physically assault protesters who were doing nothing more than stupid hippy dances in the streets).
To say that Amy Goodman brought this on herself is bit like the same logic that blames the rape victim for her own rape. Even if Goodman pushed a few buttons and/or envelopes, the police response was that of cops who were out of control. Sure, maybe they can set boundaries, but what is behind the setting of those boundaries? Should they make any demand out of any protester should that be allowed? If they arbitrarily decide "Oh THIS zone is off limits and what do you know you are all in it!" is that proper police behavior or tactics? Once they started acting the way they did (and this began long before Goodman got involved) the police lost ALL pretense of authority and being able to properly enforce it. And that's why discipline is so important in police work. Because when you give citizens the excuse to revolt and fight back you've lost your authority. Far larger peace protests have been handled peacefully and without issue in similar situations, so there is no excuse for this.
The RNC has the right to not allow certain people into their convention. They DON'T have the right, however, to stifle dissent by actively encouraging and collaborating with law enforcement to terrorize protesters, journalists, and anyone else they don't like.
As for all the right-wing troll talking points, they are just that....right wing troll talking points. And I guess the upside to this whole thing is how people like that and all these people at the RNC are so terrified of journalists and dancing hippies that they have to insulate themselves in their little fantasy world using third-world style tactics. I guess it means something that unarmed college kids and shit like that require near-military action from these people and what it means is they don't have the intellect to handle anyone like that with anything but violence.

baleen - 2008-09-03

Pretty much agree with this.

Stog - 2008-09-03

Thank you for putting all of this into words.

Cleaner82 - 2008-09-03

What we can hope this is, is a desperate death throe of a dying beast. I know, bullshit, but I can dream.

Janusian Soul - 2008-09-03

I think we can stop after saying these cops acted out of line. They were attempting to respond to the violent splinter protests and it got out of hand. Are the arrests of Amy and her colleagues shitty and possibly unlawful? Yes. Does this mean the people responsible for the RNC collaborated with city police to prevent free speech? Doubtful. I find that a big leap in reasoning with little or no evidence in support.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?content Id=6847848&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Read that and then try and tell me the police followed proper procedure.

Rather than some collusive conspiracy to prevent free speech, I think this is an example of excessive force in reaction to pockets of violent protest and nothing more.

baleen - 2008-09-03

And possibly Amy Goodman jumping the perimeter fence, getting her press pass revoked, then getting lost in the fray. Who knows. I've weathered enough scandals and stuff to wait a while to see what the actual facts are.

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