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Desc:The whole thing. 'The Collapse of Intelligent Design'
Category:Science & Technology, Educational
Tags:Evolution, intelligent design, creationism, creationists, ken miller
Submitted:Johnny Madhouse
Date:12/24/08
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Comment count is 15
NoCode - 2008-12-24
I wish I had time to watch the whole thing. Ken Miller is awesome. Finding Darwin's God is a great book.
baleen - 2008-12-24

I wish I were naked with an eight ball, a typewriter and a glock.

Lindner - 2008-12-24
Sometimes... you have to make the Christmas Miracle yourself. The magic is in us all, Baleen. I believe in you! Make that wish a reality today!

HankFinch - 2008-12-24
I wish I were naked with a writer-type with an eight-balled cock. wait... no. yeah.

godot - 2008-12-24
I'll try to listen to all (its laundry day).

There is a huge gap between the popular and scientific definitions of the word "theory". I almost wish for a new term for encompassing scientific descriptions that account (without contrary evidence) for all other known facts in that context.
takewithfood - 2008-12-24
I wish there was some kind of institution where children could go to be educated about this sort of thing. Maybe they could hold "classes" in science or something.

yeahjim - 2008-12-24
There's no real intellectual rigor applied to the level of education that most of us achieve. You go, you take the test, you leave, you get a job. Meaningless.

chumbucket - 2008-12-24
god wants us to seek the truth amen
Cleaner82 - 2008-12-24
It makes me wish I knew things about things. But please, find some time, watch it all. The lecture itself is about an hourish and then it's all Q&A which I haven't caught yet.
Johnny Madhouse - 2008-12-24
There is also a forty minute question-and-answer section at the end, so the lecture is actually pretty conveniently sized.
Keefu - 2008-12-24
So give me a bit and I'll get all the way through this. Otherwise, yes indeedy, this is quite intellectually stimulating, good chaps.


StanleyPain - 2008-12-24
This is good, but if you know anything about the ID/Science debate, there's nothing much to see here. This is a talk for people who honestly don't understand why the issue is a big deal and don't understand the legal attack Creationists are waging against education.
sven - 2008-12-26
While in my country, the Netherlands, there is currently no danger of Intelligent Design gaining a foothold -- a 'trial balloon' by a christian Minister of Education was swept away in a media frenzy of ridicule and shaming -- I still appreciated this lecture for other reasons: the account of the debate's political dimensions is very interesting, and Ken Miller seems to be awesome indeed.

phalsebob - 2008-12-24
It was a great presentation, but he's preaching to the choir. The people who need to understand this are the people who would never watch a lecture anyway, or who would dismiss it out of hand. Good luck to him in any case.
joelkazoo - 2009-12-08
Wonderful.
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