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Desc:The new face of Fascism in Italy.
Category:News & Politics, Horror
Tags:Italy, fascism, fascists
Submitted:baleen
Date:07/03/09
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baleen

This is one of those submissions where the video itself is best viewed in concordance with the whole story:

http://breakfastatmurrayfield.com/?tag=guardia-nazionale-itali ana


Apparently they have recently organized a band Mussolini cosplayers into a force of 2,100 volunteers to "patrol the streets and make Italy safer."

This would all be terribly humorous if it did not represent a bigger trend in recent Italian politicking:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8132084.stm
socialist_hentai
Blame the EU! I do! I'm romanian, there've been lots of problems in recent years with romanian, particularly romanian gypsy, immigrants in italy and all i can say is the EU is responsible. You make a shit-hole banana republic like Romania a full fledged member of the EU and give all of it's citizens all the rights you enjoy and then act surprised that they abuse them. This is the neo-nazi's time to shine and it is fucking horrifying. No longer do the pick-pockets and thugs need the help of meat traffickers or fake passports, all they need is enough cash to make the trip and they can move there with their entire fucking families. You think a pick-pocketing illiterate goon from eastern europe will stay home and settle for chump change when he can invest and go for the big western fat fish? Yeah we didn't start the fire, neo-nazis will alway be around but now they have some pretty convincing arguments to use on the dim-witted and blood-thirsty. Good on ya EU, your PC bullshit will be the end of us all.
baleen

You know, my great grandparents on one side of my family were illiterate, brutish horse thieves from Ukraine and Galicia who escaped to America, changed their names, and sent their children to college.

You make it sound like continually excluding people from a society, whether it be Romanian gypsies or Jews from the ghetto is the only solution.

Perhaps these problems your country is experiencing were inevitable... The alternative is to live in a country like your neighbor Moldova, a xenophobic Communist state, where many people are apparently quite happy but have absolutely no money or understanding of what is happening in the outside world.

Sputum
So you are against people escaping the shit-hole you are from?

socialist_hentai
no, but i'm against it for the moment, i'm against romania being let in the EU through the back door and granted rights it can't handle. There are lots of romanian migrants in italy and spain who are hard-working and honest people who could of made the jump with or without us being in the EU.And neo-nazis won't care what kind of immigrant you are, that's why last year after some chicken shit romanian killed a guy he was trying to rob, two innocent romanians were shot dead in a supermarket parking lot by a group of neo-nazis. They let the gates wide open and unguarded and now all of our criminals are moving there. Escaping the shit-hole legally was nothing special for anyone. I don't want to exclude based on class and race but we were taken into the EU prematurely, we are not as developed in any area as the rest of the members are, in 20-30 years maybe, but right now it was a big mistake. Right now there's a lot of shit in the media in italy and spain about how romanians are all fucking murderers and gang-rapists, and yes there have been lots of murders and rapes committed by romanians who entered that country legally because they can exploit that weakness of the system, this fuels racist sentiment in Italy and most of the backlash it taken by the honest working migrants. If we weren't members of the EU, we could keep all the damn gang rapists and horse thieves here, evolve as a nation, culturally and economically and perhaps in a few decades actually be a decent country, without bothering the nice migrants or feeding neo-nazi the bad news they need to spread their propaganda.

Incidentally, baleen did your great grandparents give up stealing horses after they moved to the states?

socialist_hentai
In shortL

If you want us to be assimilated, ease us into the process.

baleen

"Incidentally, baleen did your great grandparents give up stealing horses after they moved to the states? "

I have no way of knowing definitely the details of how they made end's meet. I do know my great-grandfather was still quite a thug, but he became a barber (my grandmother states in her life's testimony that we recorded that he used to beat her, and once chased her around a Catskills resort with a razor for talking to a boy; quite a scumbag).

They did a lot of petty schemes that I won't get into. They were not the most decent of people while in New York. They were the "dirty Jews," not the refined Western European Jews who worked at banks and academies and were well-versed in literature, and they were treated poorly by Americans.

We have a serious problem with Latino immigrants in the border communities, but of course we have the wealth and infrastructure to deal with it. I just feel that you cannot be part of the global community without dealing with migrations of immigrants. As for the E.U., I know that they have really screwed with Poland. I feel the wealthier members should pay for infrastructural development of the poorer nations in the same way that richer states paid for development of the rural South, Northwest and Southwest in the United States-- but that's just the problem, they don't want to.

Welcome to being a member of a massive multi-class nation.

socialist_hentai
Yes... but what if all of the funds sent from the wealthy neighbors are either funneled off by greedy politicians or not used at all cos their too well guarded to be funneled off by greedy politicians. Until the current ruling class witch is made up by former party big-wigs that staged the coup in 89 dies off and is replaced by a better, more responsible generation this place will remain a shit-hole, no matter how much money is thrown at it. The EU wants to solve our problems and has the resources and expertise but we never keep up our end of the bargain, that's our biggest problem.

PS: Your ancestors were brutish barbers and wizards, mine are peasants that lived in mud-brick hovels, i don't want to come off arrogant, i just see the stuff that is so wrong in my country and it dose make me very mad. I guess it's similar to how you guys get when you talk about "guidos" or "rednecks" etc.

memedumpster
As someone from the American demographic that most other Americans hate for stupid fucking reasons, let me say, you're not doing anything for the people you hate by hating them. You're just coming off as a Romanian neocon.

Dutch Oven Fresh Pie
Germans and Italians act like Nazis and Fascists and that's something that's new? They've had weird racial theories since the beginning of time.

baleen

It's everywhere. Anyway the point is they are getting a little too much attention right now for a lot of the reasons socialist hentai said.

Charming
I've heard that Italy has become a pretty messed up place. That it's pretty much a dump these days, and all of the politicians are crooks and scumbags. Maybe that's the real problem, and why the population can't handle the influx of poor immigrants.

bias
i cant imagine that whatever crime immigrants bring to Italy could possibly hold a candle to the unbelievably extensive work of the Italian mafia.

socialist_hentai
to memedumpster: Neocon? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't really hate these people but i hate what they do out of ignorance and poverty and i hate how it's all being handled, by our government and the italian government and the EU. In america people who talk about rednecks for example can try to distance themselves from them cos america is huge, i can't distance myself from the troublesome romanian immigrants, these are my people, they were born where i was born, they grew up where i grew up and they're all around me. It gets very frustrating feeling ashamed of the country you live in.

to bias: rape, lots and lots of rape. Also the incident i referred to briefly in an earlier post. A gang of romanian immigrants broke into some rich italian dude's apartment and proceeded to cut of his fingers one by one until he opened the safe, ironically he just had the safe installed and it was empty and he didn't know the combination. He was killed. I know it can't hold a candle to the mafia violence but the immigrant crime is on the rise, it's very random and violent now, but at this rate we risk a situation where large immigrant organized crime rings could form like in turn of the century new york that will try to compete with the local mafia.

Bored
This thread is awesome.

Also: Socialist Hentai

Are you involved with any organizations? If you feel like the Neo-Nazi backlash is a problem, get involved now. Go to Anti-Fascist Action groups. Be vigilant. Italy, especially, is a problem because they have a practically out and out Fascist government with Neo-Nazi elements. This concept cannot, and should not, spread in a post-WW2 country.

I've been to Italy and I can say that yes it is a shithole in the parts that aren't inherently rich or propped up by tourism. Genoa was a serious shithole, and I could see evidence with my own eyes that when the night came the streets became a battleground between Neo-Nazis and those opposed to them. The apathy in Europe (I'll actually say the world because it's not just Europe anymore) is appalling.

socialist_hentai
20 years of lies and corruption will give you a severe case of apathy, my friend. I don't vote, i don't get involved because i know i can't change shit. I could go on and on about the political facade in my country but this video is gonna drop out soon. We really need a POE TV chat or something cos the news forum is just to confusing and downright malicious.

baleen

More enduring forums have been suggested before, but features don't come often to poor old poetv. Besides, part of the enjoyment of poetv is that the comments don't really go on forever endlessly and that keeps the maliciousness to a minimum. Likewise we also can't get the most out of nutcases posting on here or, for instance, Cena_mark embarrassing himself for prolonged amounts of time.

If you really care about a thread going on under a clip just keep track of them with your comments posted section which you can get to by clicking on yourself (you probably knew that). You can look at all your conversations going on since the dawn of time. That at least can give a clip thread another few days of breath.

socialist_hentai
Awww hell I'm sure the subject is gonna come up again, no sense writing my memoirs. If yer ever in Romania I'll buy ya a beer. That goes for all of ya, even Cena_Mark.

Goethe and ernie
When Socialist_hentai says he's Romanian, does he mean he's Romanian, or does he mean he's American but one of his great-grandparents was Romanian so he's going to pretend that he's not actually American? I'm too drunk to read his post. Fuck you.
socialist_hentai
I live in Bucharest.I was born in Slatina, Olt District.

allcaps
I don't speak Spanish.
Cena_mark
Looks like Obama has a new role model. Hell he got behind the wannabe dictator of Honduras.
baleen
durrr

Toenails
TL;DR


zatojones
western europe does not know how to assimilate non-western europeans
Senator_Unger
Of course they know how to assimilate! Now, by "assimilate" you mean "burn in an oven" right?

Nithing
The irony being that they all look like mud people to me.
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