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Desc:Why? Because you're a Humanities student with an Arts degree.
Category:Classic TV Clips, Religious
Tags:stupid, atheist, atheism, john safran, not quite short and sweet
Submitted:dead_cat
Date:08/30/09
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Jeff Fries
Amen
Freeman Gordon
uh...
charmlessman
So... wait, is this... PRO-atheist? Or con?
Document
Neither. It's anti-uni student. Essentially, a whole truckload of smug, uncompromising chumps gets churned out by the Student's Union in university's all over Australia every year and yes, this rant is very, very necessary. There's nothing worse than walking passed a uni campus dressed smartly (BECAUSE I HAVE TO WORK) and get verbally abused by unwashed hippies for being a Jehovah's Witness (???)

Essentially, Safran's trolling the happily grubby educated-on-dad's-money Working Class Hero (but sneering at the TAFE schoolers) uni punks.

Document
Wow, that's how I spell? I TURN FACE AWAY.

Riskbreaker
Sounds like good context, but i think the method is not that funny. Also, they should make fun of the amazing-douche-ist. Easy, but much needed target.

Riskbreaker
Too stupid to be funny.
Toenails
Wow, he's got my number.

Brief History of Time is my Bible, yet I still can't rationalize why the Big Bang makes more sense than Genesis (because Hawking says that the laws of physics break down at the point of the singularity, anything could have happened).

Also, what sort of elitist fag uses bookmarks? Either dog ear your page or break the spine, Jesus it's not rocket science.
Toenails
Just to clarify.

I'm not saying the Big Bang is as stupid a theory as Genesis (Background space radiation does point to a singularity), I'm simply saying I'm not smart enough to fully understand it, therefor I cannot rationalize it very well.

Mordant
The Big Bang theory is the best fit we can come up with for the observable evidence. Genesis is a series of legends created by unknown authors which are contradicted by science, archeology, written history and every other pertinent field.

Yes, I could not explain all the evidence against Genesis as if I were an expert. No one could. There's too much of it. So what?

kwash
I won't pretend to be an expert on cosmology or astrophysics, but my standard of belief in the Big Bang Theory is two-fold.

First, due to the observable red shift we see in galaxies, and the fact that's it's pretty evident that large objects in space are generally moving away from each other, you can logically conclude that they used to be closer to each other. Go back far enough in time and they would've been so close as to be a single point in space.

Second, we don't live in a static, eternal universe. I say eternal in the sense that it hasn't always been, for all we know it could always be, but it has a definite beginning. If it was, with our understanding of physics, the universe would've uniformly spread it's heat out over time due to entropy, resulting in a universe filled with an even layer of radiation, and no nebulae, plants, stars, or galaxies.

kwash
*planets

well, also plants

CornOnTheCabre
oh yeah? well at least I don't wear glasses, fag
poorwill
I didn't even get my arts degree, so fuck you.
dr_mr_vandertramps
i can dig what he's driving at, but i think he's defining atheist in the "THERE IS DEFINITELY NO GOD" sense and not in the "There could be a god, but the odds against that are astronomical" sense.
Document
The incredible thing about John Safran is that, even though his intentions to troll were mentioned twice already in these comments, even though he's a self-proclaimed troll, even if this clip is taken from a show called JOHN SAFRAN VS. GOD (for fucks sake), people are still angrily one starring him.

This is the kinda stuff Cena Mark has wet dreams about.
Hooker
One-star votes on poeTV are exactly what he wants?

Document
Who, Cena or Safran?

Because I don't think Safran knows about us, Hooker.

poorwill
OH GOD SHUT UP YOU BABY

Hooker
Yes, Document. That was my point.

IrishWhiskey
I never understand why people think that things that aren't funny or clever deserve praise, simply if they are DELIBERATELY not funny and clever. That's not better.


jreid
I've seen this whole series, and while this clip taken out of context makes him look like more of a whiny twat than he is, he actually makes a lot of great points including this one.

Made me eat my humble pie, being an atheist yet still having to base whatever I believe on faith.
Hooker
Not to engage in the fag dancery or anything, but you don't have to be a physicist to not believe in a magical man in the clouds who made everything with special powers. This point of his is predicated on the idea that you have to believe in _something_, which is itself predicated on the infuriating social notion that "I don't know" is an embarassing and shameful position to hold.

IrishWhiskey
What Hooker said. He tried to pick on an easy target, and misfired badly. Even non-creationists fall into their bad arguments sometimes, including "If you can't fully explain a phenomenon, you must respect any alternate theory, even those that are illogical, unsupported, or contradict known evidence." You can rule out wrong answers, without knowing the right one.


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