|memedumpster - 2009-10-02 |
The guy at the end. "Uhm, I'll just close this for you."
Continuing my British education, then, "Chav" means "belligerent poor person?"
It's sort of the British equivalent of Wigger, as I understand it.
Actually, by my experience, "wiggers" have been found across the board in all economic classes and are more of a fashion/pop-culture decision than an economic fate. While the term "white trash" does have a more economic class association, it distances itself from "wigger" due to to "wigger's" broader usage.
The true meaning of "chav" still eludes me.
This somewhere in Liverpool, scouse bin dippers rather than chavs i'm afraid.
Chav does not mean 'council house and violent'; it is derived from the romany word 'charva' which means childish or immature. He's not a chav (chavs have money), he's a Scally, a cultural export of Liverpool that now takes up residence elsewhere in the Mersey Valley.This is not Liverpool, it is the Cherry Sutton/Hough Green area of Widnes. It's slightly nicer than where I grew up.
They sound like they're from LIverpool because in the 60's onwards there was a massive wave of rehoming, especially of problem families and drug addicts from Liverpool, into the surrounding areas, including Widnes. It (the accent) is referred to as Plastic Scouse now.
A whole five stars for seeing the prick get twatted.
Actually i think chav might be closer to guido. The romanian variety of chav (the cocalar), for example is almost identical to the american guido.
'Chav' isn't 'Wigger'. They both wear tacky sportswear and jewelry, but 'Chav' can describe someone with a general lack of education and taste or the feral underclass of third-generation welfare families who grew up in poverty, hopelessness and benefit scrounging and have developed a gypsy mentality to crime. It's not a fashion thing, it's what happens to people who grow up in an impoverished concentration camp in modern Britain. Your fella in the video there is a pretty typical Chav in that he's permanently hostile and confused and gets his ass handed to him by a guy who owns Babylon 5 on Blu-Ray.
The follow-up to this incident will be a gang of twenty skinny bald druggies burning that house down.
Well I don't know, council house and violent would seem pretty appropriate here though right
Spirit bulbs for Townleybomb.
Hey, I want to know this shit and since I didn't grow up there I have to ask questions. What's wrong with looking at the social continuum of who we're making fun of? Is knowledge too scary?
No, but I love it when people bring heated nerd discussions back to reality for a second.
Of course, I also love being a nerd and getting way too into heated discussions, so the way I see it is this: chavs are uniquely British, and there's no clear analog in American society. Wigger is a decent term in so far as chav style tends to be a British re-imagining of American hip hop style, but since wiggers tend to be affluent whites pretending to be scum while chavs tend to be genuine scum, it lacks the socioeconomic implications. Calling them rednecks might also work, but here again we see problems, because not all unsophisticated working class Brits are chavs (especially those older than 30), and would probably knock your teeth in for implying as much. The chav movement is predominately a youth one, too, so "punkass delinquent teens" could work in a pinch. They've also got shades of guidos and bros in them, too. Wigger-rednecks is how I usually translate them, but your best bet is to Google up stuff like "chav", "burberry", or "Lady Sovereign", and have a look for yourself.
Oh, and for the record, I'm not so sure this chap should be properly called a chav. Skinhead no doubt, but chav is stretching the definition.
|urbanelf - 2009-10-02 |
'ELLO, GOV'NA! WOULD YOU CARE FOR A SPO' OF TEA?!?!?!
It's odd reading stereotypical english speech because it sounds nothing like how I actually speak, being from the 'HERE BE DRAGYNS' part of the North West.
|garcet71283 - 2009-10-02 |
|Dicknuts - 2009-10-02 |
|phalsebob - 2009-10-02 |
That guy was amazingly patient. I can only imagine how many bullet holes that fucktard would have in him if this took place in Texas.
|ztc - 2009-10-02 |
It's an odd fact about the UK that most bearded nerdy CAMRA types with motorbikes have some sort of combat training.
THA SUGAH RAIN
beardos in the US just watch ninja movies and trick themselves into believing that when the time comes, they can reproduce the ninja movements.
|zatojones - 2009-10-02 |
This is Britain so the chav will perhaps get an ASBO which he'll ignore and the other guy will get charged with Grievous bodily harm and spend a year in prison
|svraz - 2009-10-02 |
If it went to court I would argue it like this:
The guy showed remarkable restraint and discipline. I am no tough guy (or even an internet tough guy). I would have (justifiably) hit him as soon as he kept touching me. This man went beyond what a reasonable person would have done in the same situation. This man also showed restraint in not laying down a beating. He did just enough to defend himself and get the guy away. If this took place in a public setting the argument (according to some Commonwealth jurisprudence) that there was room to retreat might apply . In this case it does not. The man was on his own gated property, he was at home. He has every right to stand on his porch. When the actual fight took place the door behind the man was shut so there was no way to retreat in any case.
|EvilHomer - 2009-10-02 |
We owned half the planet at one point.
Homer's a BRIT?!?! I'm genuinely shocked.
|Jeriko-1 - 2011-08-17 |
You touched the wheelie bin.
No one touches the wheelie bin.
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