Gommorrah
you sure watched that there video pretty quick friend zatojones

FatFatuousNation
you are dead to me, zatojones. please get off this site.

zatojones
I saw this video well before you posted it here

also I always one star your videos, usually without watching them. I've told you this before

It's because you're worthless

Gommorrah
it seems like you have a personal vendetta friend zatojones. you really should not let internet people make you so mad. it is bad for your blood pressure.

zatojones
stop calling me friend, you weepy vagina

augias
smallstar.gif are zatojone's bullets, and he only needs one.

memedumpster
Go back to poe-news, faggots, I'm trying to watch a video.

Fascinating as fuck video, by the way, thanks for sharing.

IrishWhiskey
Journalists, civilians and children killed on camera, with cold and reckless indifference.

Yeah, real appropriate response.

svraz
I would rather be a weepy vagina than a cold dry cunt.

James Woods
christ, you blow.

Nithing
Fuck you Zato.

baumer
Looks like Friend Roachbud would need to cooperate.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=24320

Five fascist stars from Zatoichi Jones!

Keefu
"A secret video showing US air crew falsely claiming to have encountered a firefight in Baghdad and then laughing at the dead after launching an air strike that killed a dozen people, including two Iraqis working for Reuters news agency, was revealed by Wikileaks today.

The footage of the July 2007 attack was made public in a move that will further anger the Pentagon, which has drawn up a report identifying the whistleblower website as a threat to national security. The US defence department was embarrassed when that confidential report appeared on the Wikileaks site last month alongside a slew of military documents."

unknown rebel
A war started over a bunch of mistakes, then a bunch more mistakes happened during its commission, and people lied about them.

This is raw footage of a fuckup and some of the political quotes surrounding it.

Clear?

Syd Midnight
I honestly thought the raw video + subtitles was more shocking without the political quotes. Dramatic build up and Orwell quotes takes away from the impact of trigger happy pilots murdering civilians.

baumer
Check out the other video. The two who were identified as armed were journalists with cameras.

Cleaner82
This point and click bullshit where some sociopathic nerd unleashes hell on a grainy half-seen outline from three miles away really pisses me off.

fatatty
I didn't see an RPG but there were definitely two guys with AKs walking behind the two journalists the video points out. But like Meatsack said there are a lot of people with guns in Iraq. Many of whom carry them as informal cops where security is low.

The threat of an RPG makes it somewhat understandable they'd want to fire ASAP before they were in line of sight with it, but it is disappointing how quick they are to shoot.

And yeah the disconnect created by the computer monitor and joystick makes killing a lot easier.

baumer
how do you explain away 4:24

"We had a guy shooting."

was someone shooting at them, as they claimed?

fatatty
There's no evidence from the video that there is anyone firing at them. But that doesn't mean no one took fire before the film starts or from some angle we can't see.

It's a sad event but there's a lot more to it than crazy red neck soldiers out to kill some gooks. And yeah they're desensitized to death but crying soldiers don't win wars.

I'm not trying to explain it away, just state that war is murky and rarely black and white. There's a reason for the term "fog of war".

baumer
"We had a guy shooting and now he's behind the building."

Sure sounds like he's talking about the same guy we see around that time. Maybe they recognized him from his RPG!

fatatty
If they knowingly killed innocent people while fabricating a threat, then obviously it's horrifying and they should be punished severely. I just don't think that's the case. I hope that's not the case.

baumer
They did and it is but they won't. But we'll all forget about it by tomorrow so no need to get too worked up!

Keefu
I just put it under resubmit.

Gommorrah
vote this one up, it's the one i meant to link to in the first place

THA SUGAH RAIN
He sounds like some disembodied sky man who lacks the ability to say "no"

memedumpster
Please don't lord over people the attainment of information. Education is not a weapon.

Simian Pride
Some of us hold the goddamn United States armed forces to a higher standard than a bunch of proto-muslims from classical antiquity.

Gojira1000
There's your problem right there *adjusts ballcap and points at "higher standards" for people who kill other people for a living*

You might wanna replace that before you hit 100,000 miles.

(You need a military. A military will always act inhumanely in combat by its very nature. See Also Gen. Sherman. It's not nice or right -- it's how it is.)

rastarat
There are clearly two aks and an rpg in addition to the telephoto gear. This Apache was providing close air support and exterminated a group of insurgents who happen to have two photographers embedded with them.

Only shoot at armed men after you've confirmed by up close ground inspection that the weapons are real and loaded. By no means give yourself any advantage over them by using "technology" like helicopters.

"erring on the side of caution would have been the prudent, true military thing to do" umm actually killing anyone sporting an rpg as quickly as possible would be a very cautious and prudent.