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Desc:“Muslims didn’t kill us on 9/11? That’s what you’re saying?”
Category:News & Politics, Religious
Tags:Bill OReilly, the view, whoopi goldberg, joy behar, a microcosm of modern american political discourse
Submitted:The Huggable Universe
Date:10/14/10
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Comment count is 47
takewithfood
How humiliating for everyone involved. Nobody comes out of this looking like anything but a complete tool. There must be well over 1,000 pounds of human on that couch and not a single adult in sight.
pastorofmuppets
3:30 made my head explode.
phalsebob
"70% of Americans believe in Mob Rule."

Oh, thanks asshole.
phalsebob
Also, I'd LOVE to see a poll finds what percent of NO MOSK mouthbreathers consider themselves 'strict constitutionalists'.

Cena_mark
Everyone loves Democracy until they're in the minority.

simon666
And since our republic was setup to temper Democracy's tendency to oppress the minority, we should have no problem protecting the right to build a mosque a few blocks from the former WTC.

standard8mm
phalsebob, I am so glad you used the term 'mouth breather'. I thought I was the only one who used the term 'mouth breather'. 5 stars for you.

garcet71283
I hate to say it...but I agree with Cena...

Cena_mark
The liberal women of the view should have better prepared themselves for some heavy fire. They know how Bill is. They know what he believes and how he argues. Very unprofessional of Whoopie and Joy.
Toenails
So, what you are saying is they should have brought a fire extinguisher and blasted his nuts a la Bruce Willis?

Cena_mark
No they should prepared themselves to not get so emotional, of course they were at a disadvantage because they're all womenz.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I fucking love this. First of all, walking out is a Bill O'Reilly Classic. They probably planned this, and why not? He walked out on Terry Gross for asking him challenging questions, and then he stood there smiling like he was having a great time when David Letterman called him a liar to his face. Because he's a coward and a bully. Yeah, Hannity and Beck make him seem almost reasonable these days, but that not because he's suddenly become reasonable.

The View gave him a taste of his own medicine. I've never seen him so off balance before, sittng there with his legs crossed and his socks showing. There was never chance of a sane, reasoned discussion, and anyway, truth be told, this was better.

pastorofmuppets
It could have been less of a circus. I wish someone had asked him who "us" is, and whether or not it includes Muslims.

fatatty
Yeah, well reasoned unemotional discussions become youtube viral videos all the time. What a huge mistake they've made.

When was the last time anyone (who's not a 40-70 year old stay at home mom) gave a shit about The View? Oh yeah, it was when Glenn Beck lied about them and made them all emotional and unreasonable.

Fezren
I find the whole ground zero mosque thing very interesting yet also baffling.

Setting "right" and "wrong" opinions aside, I can't help but wonder why the developers ever thought it would be a good idea to build a mosque near the WTC site. It's not exactly good PR for their religion, which, let's face it, was already on the ropes in terms of public opinion in the US.

I find it hard to believe that the developers of the mosque didn't realize the uproar it would create. I can't understand exactly what Islam has to gain by stirring things up. It's almost like they are sabotaging themselves.

Based on the preceding ideas I have come up with a theory that outlines a conspiracy:

JEWS PLANNED GROUND ZERO MOSQUE
Cena_mark
That's exactly how I feel. And for the most part people don't want the government to stop the mosque. They just want the builders to develop some common sense and realize its a bad idea.

Wander
Actually, it's pretty far away from the WTC site, far enough that they really couldn't have seen this coming (and it wouldn't have happened if conservatives weren't looking for a fight) and there is ALREADY A MOSQUE THAT'S CLOSER TO IT YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Not to mention several pornography shops and gay bars. (and churches and I'm pretty sure a synagogue?)

This whole liberal "I understand that they want to build it but WHY couldn't they see to build it further away?" is mostly liberals having racist feelings and being really uncomfortable with them.

RockBolt
The mosque was approved by the city and planned for months with no objection till some tea party sock puppet saw an opportunity to stoke the fire of stupidity. And yeah there are already churches and strip clubs and porn stores closer to ground zero than this place.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
Religion is bullshit.

SolRo
it's not a liberal idea you dumb fuck.

it's conservatives trying to sound reasonable while still being racist.

ie "I don't have a problem with you blacks, but if you would use the back door it would make everyone more comfortable!"

Cena_mark
This has nothing to do with racism. Simon666, which race are you black, white, or muslim?

John Holmes Motherfucker
That's like saying there's nothing racist about antisemitism. Read YouTube comments (which is always the best place to go for the straight poop on the minds of the real shitheads) and you'll see distinctions made between "Muslims" and "Americans" and ("Whose country is thiss anyway?????") The assumption that Muslims aren't Americans is racist as hell.

It's election year bullshit. Republicans felt vulnerable about having voted down medical aid for chronically ill Ground zero workers. The video of Anthony Wiener acting all outraged on the House floor was going viral, so Fox News stared playing up the mosque like it "may be" a terrorist command post, which I think may be a direct quote from Dick Morris:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-19-2010/extremist -makeover---homeland-edition?xrs=share_copy


Cena_mark
John Holmes Fatherfucker: Antisemitism isn't racism either. Perhaps the word you're looking for is Prejudice or Bigotry. Racism is overused and incorrectly used. Religious prejudice isn't racial prejudice.

Son of Slam
Cena, you're the best kind of troll, the one that people know is a troll, and yet feel compelled to respond to: If it isn't racism, then please explain the hostility displayed by the protesters to the black construction worker with a scarf on his head, and to the Egyptian Coptic Christians who were there to protest the construction?

Anaxagoras
"Jewish" is both a race and a religion, you fucking chimp.

memedumpster
Muslims are the only true Americans anyway.

Cena_mark
Daughter of Slam: I think you answered your own question. Violence against them wasn't because of their race. The black worker was assaulted not because of the color of his skin, but because of the cloth he was wearing on his head. As for the Coptic Christians they were assumed to be muslims and attacked for that reason. Yes they were assumed to muslims based on their physical characteristics. They were not chased away because they were brown, because if the people thought them to be Mexicans or Indians they'd have been okay.
Anaxagoras: Judaism is not a race. Most Jews I know look as lily white as me. Do you believe them all to have horns and giant noses? Sounds to me like you're anti-semetic.
Memedumpster:... what a pathetic attempt at trolling me.

kingarthur
Okay, if they ever do build back anything on ground zero and Fox News moves into the building, I get to throw the first stones at them. Dibs. For real. These assholes love nothing more than to shit up the lives of everyone else and I see no reason to play fair and not shit up theirs.
Fezren
I'm taken aback at the serious replies to my clever joke.

Allow me to correct a couple discrepancies.

The Cordoba House site is closer to ground zero than the existing mosque by two blocks.

Wander, you say liberals have racist feelings but I'm sure you mean conservatives. Bill O'Reilly = Conservative, The View Ladies = Liberal. This is kind of funny because, when dealing with the ground zero mosque issue, US conservatives are actually more liberal than conservative. I like to call modern US conservatives 'christian liberals'.

At any rate, I'd like to ask a question. If somebody told you that muslims were going to build a mosque two blocks from ground zero, you wouldn't ever have the thought "Oh man, all those crazy bigots are going to foam at the mouth over this"? I'm just saying, if somebody had told me beforehand, I would have seen the shitstorm brewing from a mile away.

I'm just saying it's unfortunate for the Imam. The way I see it, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place and only stands to lose no matter what he does.
Fezren
^^ meant to be a reply :((

oddeye
What the hell kind of pussy are you that you would consider not building a community center because it might offend a tiny minority of crazed bigots?

Everyone else who saw the plans and knew about them in advance was ok with it.

Fezren
Haha, tiny minority?

I think you mean 61% of Americans, according to a poll by Time Magazine.

Hey maybe if the Imam was some kind of a pussy he wouldn't have alienated so many people from his religion for the sake of a single mosque. I hear there are hundreds of them in New York City.

I don't believe Islam should be demonized for building the mosque. I just think it was a pretty stupid idea, for very predictable reasons.

Bort
It's not a mosque, and the Imam in question is known for his good interfaith works, including helping with relief efforts after 9/11. Anyone who has a problem with what he's doing is a bigot, it really is that simple.

takewithfood
I'm sure they anticipated some backlash. There's backlash EVERY TIME THEY BUILD A MOSQUE ANYWHERE in the US. I think they *hoped* that people wouldn't be such incredible asshats about it, but here we are.

But sure; as soon as I heard about it, I immediately thought "Crap, that's going to piss off the bigots." But fuck the bigots. Fuck them in the eye. If someone honestly equates all Muslims with the 9/11 hijackers, then I hope this ruins their life forever. I hope they wake up every morning and ball up their fists in impotent anger at the injustice of it all, and then cry themselves to sleep every night. (I also really hope that someone literally fucks them in the eye. I really can't stress that part enough. Just one eye would be fine, but both would be great.)

Wander
I suppose I wasn't very clear about what I meant when I said that was the liberal way of being racist. What I meant was, conservatives see this story and go "The Muslims shouldn't build a mosque there, that's insensitive to the 9/11 families (and also I don't wan to acknowledge their existence as part of american life)" whereas the response I've heard out of a lot of liberals is "They really shouldn't have built the mosque there because they should have KNOWN it would make a shitstorm happen" which is basically saying "I'm not racist, but why would black people cause so much trouble to get the vote, don't they know that's just going to make the REAL racists angry at them?"

Wander
Also, even though It's already been pointed out before, it bears repeating that no, nobody at all had any idea this would happen, from the people who wanted to build it all the way to the city planners who approved it.

fluffy
also 61% of Time Magazine readers is not the same thing as 61% of Americans

and since when the fuck is the will of the majority supposed to trump the rights of the minority?

Rape Van Winkle
They should have argued against him. Those girls were immature. They were immature compared to Bill O'Reilly.
Hammer Falls
Another stop on the "Forget Glenn Beck, remember me!" passive/aggressive tour of Bill's.
And the blonde Hassleback-fill-in's immediate taking of the space of Behar... Maybe she's quick, or maybe it was planned.
Rodents of Unusual Size
Bill: Sit down and shut up, you little woman.
Joy: (head explodes)
SteamPoweredKleenex
O'Reilly's a Catholic, isn't he?

They should have asked him where the Priest touched him.

I mean, if he gets to generalize about an entire religion, fair's fair...
Anaxagoras
That's not fair. We're familiar with Catholicism, so it's not frightening & intimidating. Besides, Catholics don't wear funny clothes.

Well, except for the Pope. And the priests. But other than peripheral figures like that, Catholics are good, honest, normal, hard-working folk.

spikestoyiu
Look at people continuing to seriously reply to Cena_mark.
Anaxagoras
Well why not? It's as valid a form of entertainment as any other discourse. As long as you don't expect anything reasonable to come from his end, it's good clean family fun.

kennydra
I read "Bill O Reilly on The View" and I see "The Perfect Storm of Crazy and Evil".

Also, fuck this whole issue. I feel so bad for muslims in this country, and even worse for people who "look" muslim to idiots. Having a community center/mosque in NYC regardless of its proximity to a place where a thing happened almost ten fucking years ago is not insensitive or wrong in any way imaginable. Insinuating (or outright saying) that "they should have known that it was insensitive" is one of the most wrong things ever, though. FFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffff-
FeeFiFoFoTheFifeFifeBrown
Clips from the goddamn view? Yeah, that's why I come here.

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