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Desc:A 40 minute journey through the land of critical thinking. Very worth it.
Category:Educational, Science & Technology
Tags:skepticism, SCIENCE!, critical thinking, brian dunning
Submitted:BorrowedSolution
Date:10/24/10
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BorrowedSolution
"Detox tea...it's supposed to rid your body of impurities..and it seems to work. You drink it, and your sweat smells terrible."

Makes me spit up coffee every time I hear it.

Even when I'm not drinking coffee.
Old_Zircon
It breaks my heart that this isn't common sense by the time people reach puberty. Way to go, educational system.
Anaxagoras
The educational system isn't the problem. The problem is the culture. When the majority of Americans completely lack any critical thinking skills, why would we expect our children to magically pick up?

Even when basic logic is taught, it's not real to most people, since they'll leave the classroom and listen to their family & friends blather the same bullshit as always. Teachers can only do so much.

BorrowedSolution
But it's not 'common' sense. That's the whole point. People aren't magically stupider than we used to be. Not by a long shot. We're not significantly more intelligent, but there ya go.

Old_Zircon
I don't know, this just seems like the kind of thought any human of average intelligence could understand by the time they hit puberty, if they were properly exposed to it.

kingarthur
The educational system selects for obedience, not critical thinking skills anyway. For example, most of the math is so rarefied from its practical applications that when it's taught in high school the student doesn't tend to see any real benefit from it other than something he or she is required to pass.

Then again, I went to high school in Mississippi and there's a proportionately higher population of people who have been told a lot of bullshit and had their own critical thinking skills crushed by that point in life anyway.

kingofthenothing
Yeah, kingarthur nailed it. In school I found myself liking math for the kind of curiosity factor but I always wondered with algebra and so on "what the fuck do I do with this?" I thought geometry would just be for architects or something. I only used graph paper to make my dungeons for AD&D. It wasn't until I dropped out and started watching anything that was on t.v. that I came across this old show from the 80's called "The Mechanical Universe" that I realized that math has a fascinating history and plugs into the real world in interesting ways. I felt glad to finally know that, but I also felt like my teachers had cheated me of the joy of learning and the power to take that learning and do something more interesting with my life.

petep
protein drinks? vitamin c? a burrito? this dragon montage could be better thought out!
pastorofmuppets
cf. xkcd (yeah, i'm one of *those* people) #808
"if astrology worked, people would make a killing on the stock market with it"

But why is he showing a picture of Alli in the beginning? I'm pretty sure Xenical isn't a hoax. Lots of people have the underwear stains to prove it.
badideasinaction
My guess is the idea that the calorie reduction from the fat not being absorbed is dwarfed by the calorie reduction from not eating fat to stop you from shitting your pants. In other words, if you ate what you ate while taking Alli you'd probably lose about the same amount of weight, unless you're the sort that binge-eats high fat foods and doesn't care about the splatters.

pastorofmuppets
Definitely. But it's still well-established that orlistat blocks fat absorption. It'll reduce your caloric intake, all else being equal.

His environmental articles are really putting me off. The SUV one starts with him sarcastically calling them "Nazi wagons." It has a single (cherry-picked) fuel economy number, but lots of unsupported references to anti-SUV legislation.

But he's fine on easy targets, and we share 99% of our bullshit lists. I'll throw him a bone and say that "simple answers are seductive" is a great pull-quote.

Ludo Smell Bad
looks like they went to Trader Joe's and photographed everything for that first montage.
FrankieTeardrop
Rice-eater piano.
Adramelech
Watched about twenty minutes, found it to mostly be mostly Bullshit! style pop culture debunking. Not exactly engaging. This guy also talks as if the "common layperson" is a clueless idiot who doesn't already know all of this. There's reasons why people believe "crazy" things and most of them have nothing to do with logical fallacies or critical thinking skills.

Also, I own the same series of books shown at 30:00. I am going to assume this is a psychic message intended for me alone that Brian Dunning wants to be my friend.
Caminante Nocturno
How do you know about something that shows up thirty minutes in if you only watched about twenty minutes of it?

Meerkat
Because twenty minutes be mostly be mostly.

Adramelech
I jumped around dog.

baleen


This doesn't go into neurophysics on a quantum level therefore it's boring and redundant to me.
FatFatuousNation
Why would you care so much about that particular pseudoscience?

memedumpster
By trying to contain as many conspiracy nuts as possible, the documentary comes of snarky and uncredible.
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