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SolRo - 2010-10-28

I know all this stuff, but I still like rolls...mainly because they're often cheaper and I like the taste of the seaweed wrappers with fish.


also; fuck mayonaise getting added to anything sushi related.


Billy the Poet - 2010-10-28

Yeah, rolls are a necessity in America unless you feel like paying for lunch.


CharlesSmith - 2010-10-28

Well frankly if all you can get is rolls, then you're not at a place where you can get decent sushi anyway.


pineapplejuicer - 2010-10-28

who the fuck puts mayonnaise in/on their sushi? i live in the northeast and the ubiquitous salmon/cream cheese "philly" rolls gross me right the fuck out


SolRo - 2010-10-28

the japanese.

they're going crazy with mayo over there and it's starting to make its way here.

several places here on the west coast are mixing the sarache (sp) with mayo for spicy rolls and it's gag inducing.


spikestoyiu - 2010-10-29

Sriracha.

And I thought mayo was like the most white people shit ever.


Goofy Gorilla - 2010-10-28

That is no way to eat the traditional sororitizushi. WRONG


Goofy Gorilla - 2010-10-28

Also I like how is basically saying just use your hands because you're chopstick skills are mad weak, whitey.


garcet71283 - 2010-10-28

You may have the respect of the chef...but you will have the disdain of every civilized eater in the room. The chef is working for me, I will eat the sushi however I damn well please. Asshole.


cognitivedissonance - 2010-10-28

Food snobbery + anime nerddom + GOD SAVE US GRORIOUS NIPPON fantasy = this. Evil, 5 stars.


petep - 2010-10-28

eating good food the way it was meant to be served is for fucking liberals


Ersatz - 2010-10-28

I'm an American. I don't care how your food is "meant" to be served. If it's actually tasty, I'm going to make it into a hamburger topping and / or hot-pocket form, then act surprised when Dateline 20/20 runs an expose about how it's not healthy to eat 11,000 calories of sushi in one sitting.

Now if you don't mind, I'm going to fetch my tibs sliders from the microwave and squeeze some ketchup onto my chili-lebna fries.


Oscar Wildcat - 2010-10-28

I always ate rolls with my fingers; often I am the one rolling and I cook with my hands. So it seemed a natural progression. Why be manhandling the ingredients then get all fussy at the finished product? Both stars for "Don't hose off your food with tamari!" So true.


fluffy - 2010-10-28

There was a local sushi bar here run by a well-trained sushi chef, and it was perfect with just a little tiny bit of soy sauce to bring out the flavor. Unfortunately, he got tired of running the business and sold it to some American guy who doesn't pre-season anything and doesn't even know how to pronounce "sake." I don't think I'll be going back there.

Most American sushi places don't know how to make it right, though, so how can you expect people to eat it right?


spikestoyiu - 2010-10-28

I've been to Japan and my girlfriend's mother is straight from Japan and I still don't know what I'm doing.


spikestoyiu - 2010-10-28

Oh, and also I don't really care. I just stuff rolls in my mouth like a hobo.


standard8mm - 2010-10-28

100� plate sushi in Japan tastes better than .50 plates in America.


Adramelech - 2010-10-28

Is there any snobbery as indignant as food snobbery?

No, there is not.


spikestoyiu - 2010-10-28

I'd suggest beer snobbery. And I love both food and beer, often together.


Erix - 2010-10-28

I recognize this asshole. His website is a must see, he charges 0 to attend one of his "dinner lectures," where presumably he will tell you that you've been doing it all wrong and eating sushi the way you like it is awful.

http://www.sushiconcierge.com/home.html


K. Brass - 2010-10-28

Now I know how to correctly ingest mercury.


Tuan Jim - 2010-10-28

and parasites.


If you eat a lot of raw fish, you have parasites.



phalsebob - 2010-10-28

I'll eat it any way I like, weeaboo.


kingofthenothing - 2010-10-28

I've never had sushi. I've never cared to have sushi. This just makes me not want sushi even more.


glasseye - 2010-10-28

Never?

Man, what a sad life.


pineapplejuicer - 2010-10-28

yeah you're missing out, its delicious. i was a sushi holdout until 3-4 years ago and now every few months i binge. the binges would be more frequent if decent sushi wasn't so pricey.


pastorofmuppets - 2010-10-29

If you can't or don't want to do raw fish, you can still get something that has cooked fish or just veggies. Or inari sushi, which is practically hot dog stand fare, but it still counts.

ONE OF US


Jane Error - 2010-10-28

Good to know if I'm ever in Japan (it's amazing how much better I got treated in Parisian restaurants just because I didn't use my fork and knife "American" style), but it seems to me that new world producers and consumers have found their own consensus about the "right" way to eat sushi, so why go against it?


Adham Nu'man - 2010-10-28

What is the "American" style? Not joking here just curious.


glasseye - 2010-10-28

Cutting up your food, then switching the fork to your right hand to eat. Europeans generally keep the fork and knife in the left and right hands respectively, whether cutting or eating.


CharlesSmith - 2010-10-28

I live in Canada, and this is the first I've ever heard of using a knife and fork "American style". That seems like a lot of unnecessary cutlery swapping to me.


Jane Error - 2010-10-28

I used to knifey/forkey American-style and switched to Continental before I visited France. It took some time but I soon found that the Continental style is so much more elegant and just a better and more efficient way of manipulating your food. That's why I didn't think this sushi guy was automatically being a dick just because he wanted to point out: "look, there's an easier way to do this that makes a lot more sense." It's the unnecessary display of 'conversing with the natives' that revealed his innate weeaboo-ness.

Also, apparently the Nazis once discovered an American spy in their midst because he used his knife and fork American-style. Table manners: they could save your life!


Adham Nu'man - 2010-10-28

Oh ok, thanks. I was raised in Europe as a kid and now live in Central America. I eat with the fork on my left hand and knife in the right without switching, but to tell you the truth I had never noticed if other people did it differently.


pastorofmuppets - 2010-10-29

Come to think of it, I only pre-cut if given one of those unnecessarily big steak knives. (Are we hunting this thing or eating it?) Other than that I'm pretty sure I've only ever seen little kids cut up their food first. So yeah I also had no idea there was an American style.

It strikes me as Europeans trying to force a distinction that doesn't exist... I just found a site that says Americans don't use a knife to push peas on their fork, which is the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever heard. THE. MOST. RIDICULOUS.


oddeye - 2010-10-28

I can eat sushi perfectly fine with chop-sticks, probably because I don't crush it between the sticks on purpose to prove a point.


TheOtherCapnS - 2010-10-28

Wow, what an unbearable ass.

I've been cooking professionally for over ten years at some of the best (and not best) restaurants in the US, and I spent some of that time working in a sushi restaurant. Admittedly, the place where I worked was one of the myriad of nobu-style places, so clearly we aren't talking super-traditional here. Also, I didn't go through the years of apprenticeship before you ever touch a fish bullshit, but I learned from people who did.

And I (and the traditionally trained guys I worked with) fucking *hate* people like Trevor here. If you get sashimi or nigiri, I'll make it with the right technique. After that, I don't give a fuck what happens to it. It's yours. Do what you want with it. If you wanna dredge every piece of it in eel sauce and mayo-based sauce because you like the taste, that's fine with me. If you want rolls stuffed with tempura fried stuff and even more mayo-based sauce, fine.

What you don't do is sit there all uptight and nervous, correcting the people's pronunciation or making little sighs when the people next to you order something you don't approve of. This isn't a fucking tea ceremony; you're at a restaurant. Have a good time. Ask questions. Get a little tipsy on sake. Who goes out to eat to be judged by the people they're paying?

I'm sure it's totally different in Japan though, and that they would immediately judge you for not knowing everything about sushi, even if you are nice and polite and ask questions, riiiiight... It's that whole fucking weeaboo mentality of worshiping some idealized Japanese culture that doesn't really even exist that makes me ashamed to admit that I read manga and watch anime and Miike films. Christ.
/rant


CharlesSmith - 2010-10-28

Yeah because he goes on and on about how you need to correct other people's eating habits while you're there.

Oh I get it, you're mad that he had the audacity to tell people how to do something in a video about how to do that thing.

There's so much vague, formless "food snob" rage floating around these comments, and it is largely misdirected here.


chumbucket - 2010-10-28

I'm thinking you didn't read all of TheOtherCapnS' comment and you likely missed Erix's comment above. Both are right in my judgment, this guy is an asshole. And worse for teaching others to be assholes like him.


TheOtherCapnS - 2010-10-28

Yes Charles, he doesn't specifically tell people to correct other diners. Yet I've more than once seen diners correct other diners. I wonder why that happens? Besides the correctors being jackasses, maybe they have the mentality that one way is right and one way is just doing it ALL WRONG.

I could go on and on about this video (he even gets a few things "wrong"), but I really don't feel like it. People who put sushi on a pedestal with it's own super-special set of rules like that are ridiculous, and whether you realize it or not, they are the very definition of food snobs.


cognitivedissonance - 2010-10-28

Food Snobbery is a manifestation of an extremely middle class life position, wherein even the slightest failure or success in an irrelevant place can act as a barometer for one's total social standing. Most of the time, the insufferable cunt doing the routine doesn't even REALIZE he's doing it, and it's just rote.

We Americans hate to admit that this Victorian mentality still exists, but here it is, staring us right in the face, and everyone who defends it is also defending high button shoes.


pastorofmuppets - 2010-10-29

I heartily agree with CD, and it's pretty funny watching the video in that context.


Buggerman - 2010-10-28

Don't order rolls? Fuck off. If I'm going to spend 40 - 50 bucks for dinner, I'm going to order whatever the hell I want and eat it how I want. Anyone with a decent chopstick skill and pick up and dip nigiri (or rolls) without dramatically mashing it up into a vat of soy sauce like some kind of infomercial struggle.


Udderdude - 2010-10-28

The comparison of mashing the food to an infomercial is pretty spot-on. You would have to be seriously retarded and clumsy to actually make that much of a mess.


hornung - 2010-10-28

Huge Ackman is a dick.


Hooker - 2010-10-28

So if I'm reading this correctly:

1) Don't pick up your california rolls with chopsticks.
2) Don't put those california rolls in soy sauce and wasabi.
3) Don't order california rolls at all because they're not Japanese anyway.


Hooker - 2010-10-28

God this snobbery stuff is infuriating. Say what you will about North American cuisine, but at least it's unpretentious. Perhaps the signature dish, hamburger, can be eaten however you want. I've seen people slice them in half, turn them upside down, load it with katchup, take the ingredients out, add more ingredients. Hell, I've even seen people just take the patty out and eat it with a knife and fork. But nobody gives a shit. It's not a sacrosanct meal. It's food.


SolRo - 2010-10-28

bullshit, there will always be someone that will give you crap if you eat a hotdog or fried chicken with utensils. (not that I do)

Americans are just as snobbish about food as any other culture, and about a million other things.

You're incredibly snobbish about your self-percieved lack of snobbishness.






snobbish


spikestoyiu - 2010-10-28

Order and eat food you enjoy less because it's more authentic!


zerobackup - 2010-10-29

Just jot home from a nice sushi dinner, ate it all with chopsticks. Fuck this guy, case closed.


boner - 2010-10-30

Being a white guy who speaks Japanese, you're like 75% of the way to being a complete douche already.


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