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Desc:Very well done.
Category:Science & Technology, Educational
Tags:Evolution, creationism, QualiaSoup, not potholer, irreducible complexity
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Comment count is 19
Comeuppance - 2010-12-01
More impressive than the argument is the quality of production values.

This guy should release a DVD.
Johnny Madhouse - 2010-12-01
Well done.
Anaxagoras - 2010-12-01
It was well done. But it's been well done before, and it didn't make a lick of difference.

phalsebob - 2010-12-01
I didn't know how the fire beetle evolved, so that's new. IC people will start looking for a new beast to hold up now. But really, if they still need the evolution of the eye explained to them after all this time, it's safe to say that they just aren't listening.
jangbones - 2010-12-01
They never will. We just have to wait for them to die off, and that will take a while.

StanleyPain - 2010-12-01
Generally the rule of thumb with creationists is that they know these things, but figure repeating a lie long enough and loud enough will achieve the results they want, which is unfortunately true.

Basically, all creationism boils down to using ludicrous logic to negate most science, mostly the "it all can't be replicated in a lab so it's wrong" argument which is ultimately where the trail usually leads.

TheOtherCapnS - 2010-12-01
Yup, that's exactly what they've been doing for a while now. It's funny that he uses the flagellum, because that was one of the first mechanisms that IC people used as an example. Biologists showed that parts of it had other functions, so they started using the eye as an example. They'll just keep doing it.

Always good enough for me has been that ID/IC/et al leave out steps of the scientific method entirely (y'know like the whole experimental testing part), and the ones that they keep are done in reverse, i.e. arrive at a conclusion and look for evidence to support it. It just isn't science, and fundamentally has nothing to do with science!

FABIO - 2010-12-01

Why even entertain this garbage any more? It should all just be boiled down to the above sentence.
MacGyver Style Bomb - 2010-12-01
Well, the proponents of this crap are more in the "faith over deeds" camp for starters. And part of their faith demands a belief in biblical literalism. In other words, if you're not a Christan who believes that the Bible is 100% true, you'll never be saved and you open your soul to evil.

Oscar Wildcat - 2010-12-01
All my stars for the poor benighted fools who think that simple, logical arguments are going to convince people who believe the entire universe was created in 7 days by a man in the sky with a penis and a beard.
CharlesSmith - 2010-12-01
You do have a point there about God's penis...

pastorofmuppets - 2010-12-01
I get you. But there are so many creationists in my own country that I'll bet there are many for whom creationism is a fair weather friend. People who don't have a strong science background and got tricked into thinking that evolution is "one side of the story."

I also have to object to the idea that some people are by nature rational and others aren't. We're all irrational at heart, yet have the capacity for reason, and need to be taught where to apply it.

Chalkdust - 2010-12-01
more of a rounded prod

fluffy - 2010-12-01
I have this strange notion that if people were to actually not reject science and maybe even try to learn things (or at least understand that not knowing something doesn't make it evil), that we'd all be better off.

phalsebob - 2010-12-01
Wait a sec... if God has a penis, the we can ask WHY does he have a penis. Why would he make himself a sex organ unless he needed it to procreate... and procreate with what?

Someone go smoke a J and get back to me with the results.

Udderdude - 2010-12-01
The answer is obvious. Black holes are giant floating space vaginas that God has his way with.

memedumpster - 2010-12-01
Ha ha ha, don't get shot in the back by Jesus, logical thinking dude!
Toenails - 2010-12-01
My great-great-great-great-grandfather was a beetle that shits acid missles? Don't tell me they actually teach that to our children in the public schools!!!!
joelkazoo - 2010-12-01
It should be noted that Ken Miller is a devout Roman Catholic.

Just sayin'.
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