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Desc:The darkest children's film ever? Full feature length but beware, Hulu
Category:Classic Movies, Cartoons & Animation
Tags:animation, mice, nimh, delicious childhood murder, reagans america
Submitted:pineapplejuicer
Date:02/23/11
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pineapplejuicer - 2011-02-23
the fair warning was "Hulu" for the record
SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-02-23
Props to them for making some decent nightmare fuel. Thanks to the sanitizing of just about everything that's not on upper-tier cable these days, the only traumatic concepts kids get are by accident.

Take "A Goofy Movie," for instance. I've not seen it, but I saw the trailer. I can't be the only one to realize that the film takes place after (1) Goofy had sex with a female something-or-other, resulting in his son, and (2) said female is mysteriously absent.
Xenocide - 2011-02-23
It's Goofy. Both 1 and 2 were probably the result of him tripping on something.

delicatessen - 2011-02-23
Yahhooohoohooo!!!

garcet71283 - 2011-02-24
Yes Goofy had a kid, and yes it was with a female (dog?) and yes...she is dead...and yes, they talk about it in the movie and it depresses the hell out of you.

Xenocide - 2011-02-23
To me, the exceptional thing about this movie isn't the darkness, but the fact that its protagonist isn't a spunky teenage princess, she's a middle aged widow. And the film doesn't end with her falling in love, because she fell in love long before the movie takes place, and now she's doing right by that love by devoting herself to settling her dead husband's affairs. How many other cartoons can claim that?

Also it's better than any film Disney put out in the 80's. Yes, even that one.
MacGyver Style Bomb - 2011-02-23
The book was better.
poorwill - 2011-02-23
Watership Down is darker!
pineapplejuicer - 2011-02-23
ooh i forgot about watership down. i never saw the movie but i read the book.

TeenerTot - 2011-02-23
Plague Dogs

Triggerbaby - 2011-02-23
I'll see your Plague Dogs and raise you a Secret Adventures of Tim Thumb

thebaronsdoctor - 2011-02-23
Grave of the Fireflies

How that movie got a G rating in Quebec I will never know.

eatenmyeyes - 2011-02-23
thebaronsdoctor, I've wondered for a while; have you worked in animation?

Xenocide - 2011-02-23
Unless someone makes an animated musical adaption of The Day the Clown Cried, I'm going to say Barons Doctor wins.

garcet71283 - 2011-02-24
Nah, Grave of the Fireflies never tried to be a kids cartoon.

eatenmyeyes - 2011-02-24
Xenocide, would you accept a crappy syndicated spin-off cartoon?

thebaronsdoctor - 2011-02-24
eatenmyeyes: I was trying to pursue a degree in animation for a while but couldn't afford the tuition so I settled on design. I'm still sort of pursuing the whole animation thing though I realize it's a bit of a pipe dream.

Portaxx - 2011-02-23
I always did love how dark this was. Though one thing always confused me; Nicodemus and the owl have the same glowing eyes, asymmetrical mustaches, and giant eyebrows. This was obviously intentional, but what's the connection? I admit I still haven't gotten around to reading the book, so is it a reference to that? FILL ME IN, PLZ.

Though as for darkest kids' cartoon movie, I'll have to go with my favorite animated movie ever, Ringing Bell. Check it out. It's great.
WHO WANTS DESSERT - 2011-02-23
In the commentary they mention that the backgrounds were inspired by Alien, which is pretty awesome.

Still, the book was way better.
StanleyPain - 2011-02-23
Imaginative and creative in ways most current animated films can't even dream of.
B. Weed - 2011-02-23
I saw this film at the probably-already-too-old age of 11 or 12.

'Fraid all that really stuck with me was the owl.

It's a damn shame John Carradine didn't live 'til the BTAS/Timmverse era-- I'm sure they could've found some cool character for him to voice.
thebaronsdoctor - 2011-02-23
Nicodemus' hands were always what unnerved me most about this film. I'm not sure why...
RocketBlender - 2011-02-23
Dark or not, I fucking loved this movie. And Book.
BHWW - 2011-02-23
Bluth may have...problems, but the movie is impressive from a technical viewpoint at least.

Macho Nacho - 2011-02-24
Arguably one of Don Bluth's best films.
Jet Bin Fever - 2011-02-24
Ah childhood.
codehappy - 2011-02-24
Years ago (circa 1996) the National Institute of Mental Health hosted a Secret of NIMH webpage. It was quite humorous.
eatenmyeyes - 2011-02-24
All I recall of it was the url.

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