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Desc:Harold Camping breaks down for you simpletons.
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Tags:cult, doomsday, harold camping, familyradio
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Date:05/11/11
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Ghoul
He's been wrong before. It's safe to say he'll be wrong again.
Uulanbaatorbaby
He seems like such a sweet old man. I hate to think about how dissapointed hes going to be. :(
Baldr
I feel bad for him too. I never thought I'd say this about one of these guys, but I really wish he hadn't made a falsifiable prediction.

IrishWhiskey
He's either a con man exploiting people for money and power, or deliberately deluding himself and others in order to feed into his own ego. He claims he alone on the planet is smart enough to figure out what God actually meant, and when he is once again proven wrong, I doubt he'll even hesitate before sitting down and making up a bunch more shit, then telling everyone they need to do what he says without question in order to avoid eternal torment. Fuck him.

IrishWhiskey
Or to put it another way: Do you think he honestly studied the Bible, discovered the key numbers and formula, and was astonished to find that the rapture was coming soon? Or do you think he started by wanting to find a close date for the Rapture because that scares and motivates people, and made up a rationalization that would allow his intended result.

Baldr
I'm honestly not sure which is the case. I do know that if I was one-hundred percent convinced that the world was ending in ten days I'd be a lot more smug about it, and if I wasn't one-hundred percent convinced I wouldn't be giving us the date. This man is a modern day Oedipus, using clever logic to run face-first into the brick wall of reality. I can't hate him.

The only case I know of where psychologists joined a cult and studied its members while their doomsday prediction failed resulted in the cult members being in despair for a few hours, followed by a doubling in confidence for their belief system. I'm sure it will be the the same for Harold Camping. That doesn't make it any less tragic.

IrishWhiskey
Maybe I'm cynical, but I find it a remarkable coincidence that, despite the Bible being thousands of years old, every single Rapture prophecy is always between a few months and a few years away. It's never 20 years, or 800 years, or tomorrow. It's always just soon enough to scare people, and just far away enough to build up a cult and exploit them.

Lots of evil people make things up in order to manipulate and control others, and end up believing their own self-aggrandizement. That doesn't make me sympathetic. Even worse, he claims his followers cannot doubt his prophecy, or they won't be raptured. There's absolutely no Biblical basis for that statement, but its exactly the right thing to tell people to stop them from questioning you or thinking critically.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/07/136053462/is-the-end-nigh-well-k now-soon-enough

Baldr
I think Luke Timothy Johnson is right that apocalyptic predictions are a response to a perceived alienation from society, and have been a part of Christianity since the Romans were patrolling the streets. I agree that they're fooling themselves, but we all fool ourselves some of the time about things we believe are important.

I feel bad for everyone mentioned in that article. But, if it was just about a power grab, then there are easier ways to manipulate people than making predictions that will be proved wrong.

James Woods
More like poor-judgement day, amirite.
heyitslozeau
So why is 5 atonement, and why is 17 heaven? If there's 10 days till the rapture and 10 means complete, shouldnt we have already completed them?
fedex
Heaven 17?

oddeye
LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION---OOOOHHHHH!!!!

Jet Bin Fever
We don't need no fascist groove thing!

Zarathustra00
How was April 1, 33 AD arrived at as the crucifixion date? Is this a byproduct of the same calculations that gave us the exact day and time of creation?

On May 22, 2011 I expect to hear about how (5x10x17)x(5x10x17)x(5x10x17) will be the day of rapture, because repeating it three times is god's way of assuring us that it's really, really going to happen this time.
IrishWhiskey
The most common guess is April 3rd, so it's possible we'll all feel real stupid for laughing at his failure for the past two days once the rapture actually happens.

Vaidency
Obviously the date of the End of the World is going to be derived by cubing some set of numbers because the one true religion is Time Cube.

TeenerTot
Jesus pulled the greatest April Fool's prank in history.

Zarathustra00
I wish I had saved my stars to give to your comment TeenerTot.

twinkieafternoon
If I remember any thing about the Cube movies, it's that we're all screwed.

gmol
I always find his voice so easy to listen to when I radio surf in my car. I only wish he was hosting something like "Prairie Home Companion", I'd listen to him all the time then.
IrishWhiskey
His first response is "Prove you have the authority to say that I don't have the authority to say that my picking certain numbers as magic, then making up a formula, then claiming I know what will happen on this date is the Word of God.

That's not shifting the burden of evidence, that's setting it on fire and launching it from a cannon.


Syd Midnight
Jesus told me that this is totally wrong.

Ball's in your court, Harold.

CIWB
"In the Bible, numbers are words."

Says who? If so, why?

This is idiocy, and this senile old coot is probably too far gone to experience any sort of disappointment when May 21st comes and goes. He'll just rationalize it, say his math was wrong, and pick another date, like his many antecedents.

He'll keep doing this until he dies.
James Woods
How epic would it be if he died on May 21st.

papercut_junky
This guy is what William Burroughs would have become if he hadn't started shooting smack.

Thank you, smack.
NineEleven
Smankyou

phalsebob
I wonder if this kind of thing will still be going on in the year 722 500.
twinkieafternoon
Jesus is going to come down on 5x10x17 and say "welcome to eerf," and punch us all one at a time.
Toenails
I just hope he's right because I'm a really big fan of the number 5!
pastorofmuppets
Some prankster sent him a bible with "ye know not the hour" crossed out and "search inside me for clues!!" written above it.
Ursa_minor
When the Judgement Day inevitably doesn't come, it will be UNDENIABLE PROOF of God's love for us. JOIN HERE.
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