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Desc:And not just the flames on the leaves of the branches
Category:News & Politics, Educational
Tags:black people, white people, fuck the police
Submitted:Casual Tea Party
Date:08/15/11
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baleen
Sure, he's mentioned why they're miserable, but not how they got there. That's kind of what free market ideologists are fond of doing. Still, nice creepy warning on the war.
baleen
Seriously, what this guy is basically saying is that they are unemployed because they aren't trying. Fuck this guy. I went to the site, it's just a bunch of Austrian School jackasses wanking over each other. But look, there's STATISTICS.

Cena_mark
Yeah, How dare he think people should contribute to society. People should have a right to sit on their ass all day and receive free money.

kingarthur
Austrian school economics should never have been taken seriously.

baleen
I think they're trying to contribute to society, cena, unlike you. LOL

kingarthur
Just to be on the safe side, the whole Chicago school and George Mason U's economics departments can go fuck themselves too.

fatatty
One of the most interesting takes on this situation I've seen puts things in a historical perspective. The underclasses have always been there and have always been underemployed and poorly paid when they were. This often led to riots and uprisings which the upper classes usually quelled with violence and prisons.

In modern times we've invented social safety nets which allows the under classes enough of a modicum of income, and dignity, so they remain placid and don't riot. Unfortunately we will always need people on the bottom to take our shit jobs, until the robots come at least.

Unless the "job creators" start paying a living wage for shit jobs then the state will have to step in a cover the difference with social programs. The problem is that even with social programs these people still have shit jobs when they have them and when prices go up and they can afford even less with their welfare, all it takes is a spark to set them off.

Old_Zircon
I guess I'll have to rewatch this video, because fatatty's post is more or less what I got out of it.

baleen

And there you have it. There are no jobs because free market economists (who have successfully brainwashed weak-kneed goats like Cena) such as Milton Friedman have created a culture where the only social contract big business has is to create a profit. Move jobs overseas, replace many of them with automation, and you're left with a growing underclass competing for stagnant growth service jobs with very little dignity.

Welfare has and always will be the basement solution to the problems of global capitalism. Part of what I'm trying to do in my work is create new markets in destitute areas along the lines of the Ashoka model, which has been very successful in lifting people out of poverty, but that requires capital investment, training, and people on the ground making things happen from all directions.

What I love is this age old argument from the Right, as rehashed with highly selective statistics in this video (literally the same grouping of stats as in this country to come to the same determination): "These kids have no fathers, that's why they commit crimes. The evil welfare state is stopping men from marrying women and raising their children because it means they lose 0 a month. Men bring home the bacon, so families have to give up welfare. Dismantle welfare and men will raise their children. This will eliminate crime."

Everything may be true up until the last 2 sentences. What is wrong with paying welfare when the man is around? Seeing as the welfare safety net worked before it was attacked by thick skulled fascists like Cena_mark. http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/07/PovertyExits/ch1.htm


These riots never would have happened if Cameron had not gone on his crippling austerity adventure. There are all kinds of ways capital investment from community groups can be used to develop new markets, create dignity in neighborhoods blighted by global capitalist abandonment, and lower crime. Without starving people to death.

memedumpster
Comrade Baleen has earned his beret. I would like to add to your first paragraph the technologically savvy whose sole goal in life is to build an Internet thing, sell it for millions, then go buy a yacht and retire doing nothing else.

Cena_mark
So that's what's causing it. I thought it was because somebody killed Radio Raheem.
baleen
What I like most about you is your style of wit/trolling. You're sort of like the POETV retarded swamp baby of Jesse Ventura comedy.

EvilHomer
Actually, the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort NOT to have a riot.

Void 71
I'd have more sympathy for the rioters if they started hitting the right targets. Imagine if all of the energy wasted on breaking into The Gap or whatever was instead used to burn down a couple banks. I mean, why aren't there any dead politicians yet? Come on, guys. Get it together.
BorrowedSolution
Short (probably lacking) answer? Stockholm Syndrome.

Abstract Fainter
You m-m-mean the wealth c-c-creators?


*swoon*

fatatty
I doubt any of them understand the relationship between the banks and the global financial problems, or their own personal problems.

These aren't people who read the news, they just think banks where people store money. To them the symbols of wealth are the consumer products the telly tells them to want. And this was their chance to get what they want.

garcet71283
Why is it that I am alarmingly apathetic to England's problems?
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