chumbucket - 2013-04-23
"You're gonna get angry at yourself." I say that to myself every morning.
Stars for this guy so wanting the last word.
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The God of Biscuits - 2013-04-23
Definitely NOT a Democratic-Republican. Thomas Jefferson was the first Democratic-Republican President, you arrogant prick.
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roughnready66 - 2013-04-23
Nobody wins here
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simon666 - 2013-04-23 The question is clear and can be understood in two parts. The first part is the assumed premise of the question in the second part:
1. The Republican Party lost presidential elections before it won them.
2. Given 1, who was the first candidate from the party to win a presidential election?
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simon666 - 2013-04-23 Oh damn it. That was for Racketeer's comment.
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Racketeer - 2013-04-23
In the kid's defense, this is a poorly-worded question.
"Name the first Republican candidate to become President of the United States"
"Candidate to become President" is ambiguous. Is it looking for the first Republican president, or the first candidate for the presidency? He could just have said "Name the first President of the United States from the Republican Party", but he didn't because the question-writer wanted to set a trap for the contestant. The first Republican presidential candidate was John C. Fremont, but he would be wrong if he answered that.
Televised high school quiz shows have always had shitty questions. Modern mainstream quizbowl has eliminated most of that in its competitions, though. You would be mocked on the forums for something like that, if it got past an editor.
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Racketeer - 2013-04-23 I am not that guy, but I was part of a winning team on a televised high school quiz show a couple of years ago. I have no idea if there is video of it online, it isn't on YouTube at least and I don't want to take the time to look it up.
And anyway, it doesn't conform to current quizbowl best practices. The question should point to one answer unambiguously from from the start, and just the part "Name the first Republican candidate" doesn't disambiguate between Fremont and Lincoln. It's called a "swerve" in the lingo.
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snothouse - 2013-04-23
Mark Zuckerberg's finest moment.
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Jet Bin Fever - 2013-04-23
What a dweeb. I bet he makes a shit ton of money now.
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