Don't go poking around for information about the leaky nuclear waste dumps all over the midwest, then.

As a resident of the Midwest that doesn't scare me in the least. We've got nowhere to go but up.

The best one is the underground landfill fire that's heading right for the underground nuclear dump leak. I should be getting superpowers any day now.

Thank god the laws of physics rounds off to the nearest giveafuck.

Also, it's worth point out that the international ban on ocean disposal was more precautionary than anything else; numerous environmental studies have been done over the years, and they have all concluded that the actual environmental damage, even from those sites which were leaking, was negligible.

Such as?

Surely, you can explain your case to these documentary filmmakers and their expensive robotic exploration system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NQascA6zfk

Such as what? Would you like some scientific data? Here you go.

http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/te_1105_prn.pdf< br />
The conclusions are summed up on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_wa ste#Environmental_impact

The Jet Jaguar Institute of Godzilla Exploration remains skeptical due to the lack of 21st century data.

Yeah this is a hazard to the very local surroundings of the dome and not much else. Plenty of fizzled weapon parts and irradiated coral already ended up in the water, probably significantly more than what's in the dome as it is. Really not unlike Fukishima, dilution is the solution to pollution.

Your sensible take on all of this is really throwing a wet blanket on my hand wringing!

You guys lack all sense of fun.

I know you can't nuke the oceans, but EvilHomer doesn't know I know that.

>> I know you can't nuke the oceans, but EvilHomer doesn't know I know that.


Either that, or you're too proud to admit a mistake, and are now desperately trying to retcon your end-times paranoia with a limp troll-shield excuse.


This video should be renamed "Trolling Catastrophists... FOR SCIENCE!" Calling back to last week's JHM submission {1}, this current video is a good illustration of my previous point: that Rebecca Watson, despite having her heart in the right place, was (owing to her reliance on badly-presented data) nevertheless drawing a flawed conclusion in regards to the behavior of consumers of "mainstream scientific viewpoints" versus the behavior of consumers of "conspiracy viewpoints".

Now, yes, technically speaking, poeTV is an "alternative" website, and we predominately consume "alternative" (i.e. non-corporate, non-mainstream) material. The researchers Ms Watson cited may or may not have considered us to be as such for the purposes of their original study. However, I think the poe community can be considered "mainstream", or more specifically, "mainstream scientific", in that most of us here believe in the value of empirical science and in *independently verifiable claims* (the verifiability of claims being perhaps the core difference in Ms Watson's understanding of what constitutes "mainstream" versus "conspiracy" thinking). We are, most of us, believers in what the current scientific status quo tells us is true.

And yet, we STILL have problems with skepticism, particularly when it comes to socially manipulative matters like "climate" or "environmentalism". Hell, I'm not going to lie here, the first thing I thought when I was watching this video was "holy fuck, we are so screwed!" That was, after all, the filmmakers' intent, and they really do know how to get that message across, at least on an emotional level. I felt a big lump of fear, same as the rest of us probably did, until I sat down and analyzed the message a bit more thoroughly. The main point here is, it's *very easy* to trick people, even intelligent, well-educated people! Gullibility is not the sole domain of rival sociological groups whom Rebecca Watson despises; it is something that we all have to be vigilante of, a basic human flaw which can only be overcome by actively and dynamically questioning all authorities.

{1} http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=146020

I looked shit up way back in the day regarding Fukishima's radiation being detected on the West Coast. It's waaaaay beneath lethal and will fall back to background levels in a few years.

Critical thinking is easy, you should try it. For every dumbshit claim someone makes, have a criteria of >observation< that BOTH (not either, not one or the other, fuckin both) proves and falsifies the claim. Then look for them. Take note of which one you find. Anything lacking the capability of proof AND(not or, not maybe, not ponies) falsification is a meaningless claim, because you can't parse the presence or absence logically if one was never defined. This renders 100% of rhetoric useless to anyone not lying and makes you highly resistant to bullshit.

I am going to write a script that explodes simple statements into Homersprechen though. It will be glorious.

Glorious!