|sosage - 2011-10-07 |
"Let em eat cake, yah know what I mean? It's 2011!"
|Maggot Brain - 2011-10-07 |
Didn't this guy fuck kids?
if fucking kids exempted you from the GOP, the presidential field would look like a Pripyat block party
|SolRo - 2011-10-07 |
#Idonthavethefactstobackthisup but I know that herman cain was declaired legally brain dead in 1997.
|memedumpster - 2011-10-07 |
What kind of wine would go good with Herman Cain? Thunderbird?
|Craptabulous - 2011-10-07 |
What an asshole.
Now come on. He's right about a few things. There are a lot of anti-capitalist sentiments going around the Occupy Walstreet movement.
Yes, but the majority of them aren't calling for an end to capitalism. Most just want sane capitalism. To make sure that the capitalists have less influence in politics and are held responsible when they break laws and destroy economies.
And to say that the system and institutions that encouraged people to ship jobs overseas, substitute credit for real wages and created the toxic mortgage assets aren't responsible for declining wages and rising poverty is either ignorance or assholery.
I don't know about the others, but the system that encouraged business to ship jobs overseas lies in Liberals and their regulations and high taxes.
Also liberals are tree-hugging god-hating tax-friendly whores for big government, who think they know everything because of their college educations, who probably don't even own a gun, much less would be able to shoot one.
Did I miss anything?
You're right Kwash, and that's what needs changing around here. The losses and gains must be private.
Loose Change, you're pretty dead on there. Except I don't hate liberals for being godless as I am godless as well. I too am college educated and I didn't own a gun until I moved to Alaska. Actually I have a lot in common with liberals except that I hate big government, and I don't waste my time looking into the other man's pocket.
I just wanted to be sure I didn't miss any of the cliche.
You're right. I should have gotten a degree in hard sciences. I was young and foolish. I however do intend to send out my OCS package soon. And they won't cut the Coast Guard. We've been cut enough as is. Plus I'm getting promoted fast and getting good marks. I'm sitting pretty right now.
I am wasting time in responding. BUT, why the cognitive dissonance, cena?
The problem with small government conservatives is that they have no problem with monopolies or mega-conglomerate corporations. I really fail to see the difference between the two, either. Both are collective groups of people who both make up a selective economy. Both are a wealth pyramid, with many poor people at the bottom and a select few very wealthy at the top controlling it all.
Both are made up of people.
If you have good people running a company, then the company might be good. If you have good people running a government, then the government might be good.
A good government or company could technically be any size as long as it's run by good people - because good people won't monopolize an industry or invade other countries because it's politically convenient.
The problem with conservatives is they put the blame on the wrong end. The blame is with people who perpetuate this sort of way of life. The blame is with people who allow it to happen. The blame is with people who vote and continue it for that one in a million chance that they might be at the top of the pyramid themselves controlling it all.
We can't all be rich, Cena. The math doesn't work out that way. If wealth is equalized, we'd all be middle class and none of us would be millionaires. So, if Herman Cain is right, and you only have yourself to blame if you're poor or unemployed, then how come very smart and very hard working people are in the lower classes? How come we don't have room for everyone to be millionaires?
It's all well and good for Herman to talk from his perspective, but he completely ignores a perspective of life he's never seen, and is blissfully ignorant and unaware of.
You're right in that a lot of people work hard and are still poor. But I don't agree with everything Herman Cain said. I'm all for the working poor and I want corruption out of both politics and government.
Of course we all can't be rich, but I do believe society needs an upper class to create business and jobs.
Herman Cain may sound callous, but that's only because he was there. He had very humble roots, so It might seem odd to him that others couldn't pull themselves up as he did. Of course everyone can't, but Cain probably figures they didn't work as hard as he did.
Yes, our taxes are so crushing to our corporations. So crushing that GE paid nothing in federal income taxes last year. So crushing that our income taxes are the lowest they've been ever. So crushing that our corporations are shipping their manufacturing jobs to a communist country, no government control there, that's for sure. You really think decreasing taxes will help American workers compete with a day workers?
We let you cut taxes to record lows and slashed regulations all over the place and the past decade has seen only an increase in outsourcing and disasters caused by lack of regulation (Coal mine collapses, oil spills, global financial meltdowns). When exactly is this stuff supposed to pay off? Cause I don't know if you noticed but it has paid off really well for the plutocrats of the country, but they've not yet deemed us worthy of any trickle down. We still have the largest GDP in the world (and the largest in our history) and yet we can't seem to find enough money for anything.
Meanwhile Germany has tax rates of 45%, socialist healthcare and harsher regulations in most cases and is the strongest economy in the EU, and they still let their people manufacture their products.
Fatatty, the elephant in the room with outsourcing that no american wants to admit is that they are not willing to pay higher prices (and cannot afford to) on what they overconsume on. If you cut back the quantity of things bought in America then Americans could pay higher prices - but they don't want to do that.
Plus, people in India for example WANT the jobs we don't want to do. In the US, a telemarketing job is the bottom of the barrel. But, in India, people love that job and enjoy it. They enjoy working menial jobs more than Americans are willing to do. Sure, a company could hire Americans to do that, and possibly could, but won't be able to get the results that an overseas firm can give for a fraction of the cost.
The same lies with manufacturing. Chinese laborers are willing to work longer and harder hours than Americans. Companies knew this since the 1800s.
Regulation (or lack thereof) isn't the problem. It's American culture. Nobody wants to dare admit that. It's the culture of consuming too much without making sure that the resources are there to keep up with consumption.
Cena, there are a lot of small business owners that hire people that are NOT in the upper class. In fact, I would imagine that most people work for bosses that are in the same middle class as they are. Further, I see no reason why CEOs should make 400 times what an average worker makes. If CEOs were the people hiring and creating jobs, then why can't they give up their huge salaries so they can hire more people?
Oh come on Mark Cena. There's a few things I'm right about you.
1. You are a total jackass.
2. You have never read anything written by a libertarian, you just like the fancy big word.
3. You fuck children.
4. You are a janitor in the coast guard.
Telemarketing/phone banks in the late 90's was the base job most high school educated Americans could fall back onto that wasn't physical labor or flipping burgers. It was a pretty massive industry in this country and provided a ton of jobs. Those jobs didn't disappear because the people doing them refused to show up to work or found it demeaning...and I think it is a safe bet most Americans wish they were still around to fall back onto.
|longwinded - 2011-10-07 |
|kingarthur - 2011-10-07 |
Cain has diarrhea of the mouth, WSJ eats it over caviar.
However, I for one think Occupy Wall Street should be about having a serious grown-up discussion about seriously reforming capitalism or even eliminating it.
Off my soapbox now. Sockpuppets fire at will. :D
I feel like that's where the movement is heading. If the other branches are anything like Seattle, we have a load of talented, intelligent people that are up to their eyeballs in the minutea of building an organizational system that can actually function as a consensus democracy. Once we get that in place, people are going to have the means and creativity to demand concrete fixes to the system. I can tell you right now that it's not going to be corporatist democratic party line changes, either. That won't fly.
I'm guessing a bit after the 10/15 round of worldwide protests, you'll see more concrete action being demanded.
|THA SUGAH RAIN - 2011-10-07 |
Paternal common sense prefaced by off-the-wall conspiracy allegations.
THA SUGAH RAIN
I know it must be mind blowing to think people have different opinions, but its not a troll schtick.
It's not trollish because you're offering a dissenting viewpoint. It's trollish because of your tone & because of the stupidity of the viewpoint. I am aware that some people are genuinely stupid enough to hold the viewpoints you often expound, and you might be one of those people. But when you pair your tone with your viewpoint, it's a troll schtick regardless of your sincerity.
You just made me side with Rain.
That's the best you've got? "lol"? Color me unsurprised.
|teethsalad - 2011-10-07 |
what a blathering ossified cockfuck
|Innocent Bystander - 2011-10-07 |
Sure the banks had something to do with the whole economic collapse or whatever, but that was like three years ago! That's ancient history! Now that it's 2011 it could never happen again and all the banks are super great now, just like everything else.
|TeenerTot - 2011-10-07 |
As a presidential candidate, I can't be bothered with "looking into things" or "trying to understand people." So instead, here's what I made up in my head about them...
At least he admitted he wasn't too informed on it. His judgments were based on what he heard, and frankly they were rather accurate anyways.
|kwash - 2011-10-07 |
"I don't have the facts to back this up"
Well then, don't say whatever the fuck you're about to say next on national TV.
Other things Cain believes but can't back up with facts:
God made his pizza company prosperous because Cain put God's name in the branding.
Gnomes eat electrical wiring
Other blacks are somehow inferior to him
|Abstract Fainter - 2011-10-07 |
Oh oh, Occypywallstreet. Herman Cain doesn't like you. Looks like it's all over.
|themilkshark - 2011-10-07 |
Herman Cain will lose. Republicans will lose. Occupy Wall St. was a huge success. This is the new America.
Obama's second term will make redneck's heads sipn
|Hooker - 2011-10-07 |
I think the sickest part is that he's reinforcing the idea that failure should be heavily punished. What a fucking backwards society the west has become.
|Binro the Heretic - 2011-10-07 |
So, how does the son of a maid and a chauffeur afford a college education?
Seriously, who paid for this guy to go to college? Did he earn a scholarship or grant? Did his mom and dad just save up for it? Did he mow lawns and keep all the money in a big jar on his dresser until he graduated high school?
Does he not know that banks aggressively marketed high-interest college loans to families for two decades? Does he not know that the average college graduate these days is looking at making a damn-near ,000 monthly payment for many, many years to come to pay off their student loans? And now they have to do it without the fancy job their college education was supposedly preparing them for?
Oh, that's right. He doesn't have any facts.
|dead_cat - 2011-10-08 |
I don't have the facts to back this up, but I'm pretty sure Herman Cain is actually a steam-powered animatronic puppet being controlled by the army of tiny little gnomes that live inside of him.
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