"You know, if you hack, twist, and misquote everything, you can pretty much make it say whatever you want, and that's not really searching for truth."
Well at least we agree on something.
Spelling errors, mistranslations... in the inerrant word of God? How is that possible if you're dealing with a omnipotent all-powerful being?
He also doesn't address more fundamental stuff like why the four gospels give wildly different accounts of different events and different accounts of the allegedly same events.
It's also grating how he uses words like "truth" or "common sense" the same way George W. Bush did.
"Literal vs. Figurative"
Literal: whatever supports my views in the Bible is literal.
Figurative: whatever contradicts my views is figurative and actually agrees with the previous bit once I quote only part of it or purposefully misquote it.
Need I say more?
|Billy the Poet |
John 1:1 in Greek:
En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos.
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god.
A just as valid translation of those words:
At the start of the reign, the word moved towards the god, and the god became the word.
But it's not like minor errors in translation can change what the Bible says or anything.
That's not a just as valid translation.
|Jet Bin Fever |
Imagine how the world would be if the Bible was about respecting nature and science instead of battles, laws, and tall tales.
Sanest Man Alive
Yes, because we really need centuries of mutual disgust and persecution between geneticists and horticulturalists over some ambiguously translated passage from the notes of Gregor Mendel. Doesn't science catch enough shit from fundies already without needing its own?
AS for the video, I think Jimmy Conclusion Jumper is just talking to himself this whole time.
Wait, you think science doesn't already have fundies?
Define "science fundies." If you mean the time cube guy or people who believe in chemtrails and stuff, that's not really science.
Jet Bin Fever
Oh, I didn't mean that a tome would replace the bible so much as explanations of natural phenomena that make sense, are not based on myth, and are far less sensational and derisive. I know, not possible in the world that exists.
The Ten Commandments!
I . Thou shalt QUESTION!
II. Thou shalt RESEARCH!
III. Thou shalt HYPOTHESIZE!
IV. Thou shalt EXPERIMENT!
V. Thou shalt ANALYZE!
VI. Thou shalt REPORT!
VII. Thou shalt watch STAR TREK RERUNS!
VIII. Thou shalt argue over BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!
IX. Thou shalt HATE TEACHING HUMAN LIFE!
X. Thou shalt LOVE PROGRAMMING ROBOT LIFE!
Man must not lay with robot kind, unless man is very drunk and lonely.
I still can't believe these people haven't accidentally burst into flames, trying to draw logical conclusions to their collected edition of little golden books. "If you take the bats out of that list of birds, everything else makes sense!" Exemplar religious thought. These people really aren't trolls?
Only computers have the dignity to commit ritual honor suicide over gross faults in logic.
|Sexy Duck Cop |
If you ever want to see a literalist do some jumping jacks, ask them what color cloak Jesus wore to his trial. Matthew says scarlet; Mark and John say purple. They will tear their brains in half trying to explain that the cloak was half-scarlet/half-purple, that it was striped scarlet and purple, that it was a magic cloak that switched colors, or that the crowd took off the scarlet cloak and put on a purple cloak halfway up Golgotha because why not.
scarlet and purple are pretty close
Maru: But this is a text that's supposed to be the WORD OF THE INFALLIBLE GAWD. Contradictions shouldn't exist, if that's true.
Sexy Duck Cop
I have literally read Christian apologetics that consist of the tautology: "The Bible is infallible. But here, it is fallible. So as you can see, it is infallible."
Yes, I know that sound unfair. I know it sounds intentionally stupid. But I don't make the arguments, I just ctrl+v them.
|Spaceman Africa |
Aside from the annoying intro this is basically a dupe.
Are we going to just post every episode of "Wretched?"
So God went to the trouble of inspiring a perfect document with no mistakes that was His flawless message to humankind, but couldn't be bothered to make sure there were no translation errors down the line.
This oversight ensured that 99.9% of the people who have read the Bible over the centuries are reading something less than accurate at best, and completely wrong at worst.
So according to Wretched's own argument, God done goofed.
Makes me sad that reading your paragraph would not phase the people it really should. That is the dilemma - people who've already walled off their minds.
Sexy Duck Cop
Not even. Check out 2 Samuel. Gob admits to making a huge mistake in picking Saul to be King of the Israelites.
Most of people's complaints with the bible's contradictions dont relate to any of those things. It's riddled with continuity errors, stupid laws and leave it open to more questions to the answers you were given
Do you have a license to operate that cherry picker?
|Mr. Purple Cat Esq. |
That was one of the 1st things I came across after I got home internet :)
|Mr. Purple Cat Esq. |
Heres just the contradictions..
theres 472 listed there
I'm less concerned about the contradictions than the parts that people ignore altogether, about how to treat widows, orphans, immigrants, the poor, and your fellow man in general. Maybe I'm just old, but challenging fundamentalists on the casualties of a battle seems to be missing the point when they're purposely ignoring how God very consistently hates rich people who are dicks.
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