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Desc:Beats me.
Category:News & Politics, Educational
Tags:butthurt, mgtow, no evidence provided, without the accent this would sound stupid
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
Date:08/18/14
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ashtar. - 2014-08-18
Because MGTOW do nothing but obsess about and hate on women in general and feminists in particular?
magnesium - 2014-08-18
There's a Feminist Theorem? These dudes never just go their own way. There's lots of people in the world who opt out of dating for whatever reason, and go on to live fulfilling, happy lives. These guys are in a perpetual state of "If I don't get what I want, I'm taking my ball and going home!"
dairyqueenlatifah - 2014-08-18
And that's wrong because........?

magnesium - 2014-08-18
Because dedicating your life to being a dick to every woman you encounter because cheerleaders wouldn't date you in high school is perhaps not the best life choice?

You can relax, of course. The Feminist Collective Consciousness isn't planning to force mass marriages on you fine gentlemen until at least 50 years from now.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-18
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I feel like we're raising our daughters to live in 21st century because we want them to be "strong", and we're raising our sons to live in the 20th century, because we want them to be "strong".

The MRAs, the PUAs, the MGTOWs, the "Nice Guys", the TFLs, and even the goddamn Promise Keepers are all trying to negotiate the gap between "the way it's supposed to be" and the way it is. They want to feel like they've got it all figured out. Some self-reliance is exactly what's called for, but the MGTOWs are obviously faking self-reliance. They can't stop telling themselves how the women are suffering without them. Their need to believe that is pretty sad.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-18
Shit. Sorry about that.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-18
I like ponies.

Caminante Nocturno - 2014-08-18
I like ponies, too. However, it's painfully obvious that a lot of men are intimidated by Rarity. She is an assertive, professional mare whose femininity is her strength, rather than a weakness. Clearly, some men are threatened by this.

I see some of these negative feelings directed towards Applejack, too. Frankly, you can tell a lot about a man's maturity by their opinions of these two ponies.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-19
I think it's less the fact that Rarity's femininity is a source of strength, and more the fact that she uses this strength for evil almost as often as she uses it for good. And this is understandable: for example, I am not threatened by Diamond Tiara's wealth and good breeding. But when she uses her socio-economic station to intentionally hurt other ponies - like locking them out of her pool party - that I have a problem with. It's not her gifts, it's how she chooses to use them.

Another thing is that I rather suspect most Rarity haters are betas, like Spike. When she mistreats Spike, they internalize it; it's like a personal attack on them. Her behavior is a trigger, and that's why the Rarity backlash is so extreme. This observation doesn't really contradict your statements, but it does help to place Rarity-hate in it's proper context.

Pillager - 2014-08-18
Loving a man-child
it's an impossible thing to do.
How can you ever change things
That repel?

If I could
you Big Baby I'd tell you to mature
How can I
When you won't accept reality.


You can go your own way
Just go quietly.
You can call it
Another lonely day
You can go your own way
Just go quietly.

Tell me why
Everyone turned against
Please shut up
Whining's all you wanna do.
Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2014-08-18
Gives me that classic rock tingle.

Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2014-08-18
I didnt even watch this. I upvoted this for the discussion. I had to google MGTOW. 1stly what a horrible acronym! Unpronounceable + if you say I'm a MGTOW it doesnt make sense, it should be me MGMOW (man going my own way)
Also as mentioned above I'm sure self-identifying MGTOWers are not simply going their own way, I'm guessing its an excuse to be a misogynistic non-child support paying MRA deadbeat. I would say all my friends and I (guys and girls), people I respect and like , would "go our own way" as much is reasonable, ie. be independent and forthwright. Actually right now I'm sharing an apartment with some seriously hardcore gamer guys, who are on the dole and fat and have big beards and play all manner of games as if its their vocation. I doubt they have ever even touched a boob in all their lives. They most certainly are going their own way, but theyre totally pleasant! Theyre just doing what they want and not bothering anyone or making a fuss.
Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2014-08-18
Basically if you really are "going your own way" or not, to any extent, then that is not really remarkable

Caminante Nocturno - 2014-08-18
I thought it was a Magic: The Gathering expansion. I hadn't been that confused since I thought feminists had something against army rations.

Oscar Wildcat - 2014-08-18
MGTOW makes me think of some kind of shoulder mounted anti-tank missle system. Speaking of which, if I become a MGTOW do I need to start changing words to fit my male worldview? "shoulder mounted anti-tank misterle", then.

Xenocide - 2014-08-18
One thing you quickly figure out about MRA's is that their entire lives revolve around feminism, in a way that even hardcore feminists' lives don't. They are fucking convinced that the Vaginal Gestapo is watching everything they do, preparing to pounce and rend their fragile, helpless little egos asunder with accurate charts about the gender pay gap.

Anytime an MRA (or a generic, label-free misogynist) posts a comment on the internet, there is a 75% chance they will end it with something like, "NOW I'LL WAIT FOR THE FEMINISTS TO COME AFTER ME FOR SAYING THIS." This is usually replied to by no one, because no one, feminist or otherwise, gives a shit what Fedora McDiabetes has to say about women.

It's part of this "boo hoo I'm so persecuted because no one will suck my dick" mentality of theirs. They think they're revolutionaries, when they're really more akin to homeless guys shouting obscenities on a street corner.
Nominal - 2014-08-18
Do they really not give a shit? The ONLY time I ever hear about MGTOWs and MRAs is when feminists and you guys bring them up. It looks like both sides are composed of nothing but people who can't stop harping on each other.

In that sense, MRAs and feminists aren't enemies. They're symbiotic. People just want to pick a side and start yelling.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2014-08-18
This has been Nominal with your irony of the day.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-18
>>Do they really not give a shit? The ONLY time I ever hear about MGTOWs and MRAs is when feminists and you guys bring them up

Well, all I did was link to the video, one of a shitload. As someone suggested, I googled MGTOW, and I discovered a virtual pacific trash vortex of shitty MGTOW videos.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-18
FemRA is a great 'ship.Some people prefer FemFem or MRAMRA slash, but I think FemRA is both the most natural and the most interesting pairing.

asian hick - 2014-08-18
I'm a little sad that we managed to demonize MRAs so early on poeTV. I'm willing to bet money we'd have a few open MRAs if there wasn't such a stigma. On the other hand, it does force those people into making absurd statements like drawing an equivalency between MRAs and feminists.

I'm still not convinced you even know what a feminist is, Nominal.

Scrimmjob - 2014-08-18
Bea Arthur?

Xenocide - 2014-08-18
Welcome to the planet Earth, where the sky is blue, water is wet, and Nominal lacks even the most basic grasp of whatever situation is being discussed. These are the constants around which we base our reality.

poorwill - 2014-08-19
I just got a new flatmate whose solution to the world's issues with bigotry is for 'both sides' to stop caring because it's the people who really care that are the problem. He doesn't care and it's not a problem for him! He also really, really fucking likes the Resident Evil movies and enthused about them at length. And his head is a weird shape.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-19
See, Nominal? This is what happens when you tell people who care that the problem lies with them, not just their Hated Enemies. They're going to get mad at you, they care about that kind of stuff.

Potrod - 2014-08-19
"The ONLY time I ever hear about MGTOWs and MRAs is when feminists and you guys bring them up."

I know Nominal has been designated the official Poetv closeted MRA/virgin/neckbeard/fedora, but at the very least, the above should not be a controversial opinion. Most of us had to google MGTOW. Most normal people would.

If you are an actual feminist, there a LOT of other things that matter a lot more that you can expend energy on, rather than bringing attention to some low hanging fruit online. This is more about feeling better about yourself, as evidenced by the guy WISHING there were MRAs on here to make fun of, which wouldn't be so bad if people just admitted it.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-20
>>Do they really not give a shit? The ONLY time I ever hear about MGTOWs and MRAs is when feminists and you guys bring them up. It looks like both sides are composed of nothing but people who can't stop harping on each other.

>>I know Nominal has been designated the official Poetv closeted MRA/virgin/neckbeard/fedora, but at the very least, the above should not be a controversial opinion. Most of us had to google MGTOW. Most normal people would.

Well for one thing, he doesn't just mention MGTOW, he mentions MRAs, and that elevates the above opinion way beyond controversial to fucking absurd. Consider YOUTUBE, a website that is so mainstream that most of us don't think of it as a website. Every feminist video is peppered with angry MRA comments. Every antifeminist video is peppered with angry MRA commenats. A whole bunch of videos that have nothing to do with feminism are peppered with Angry MRA comments. A few months ago, a guy wrote an MRA manifesto and went on a killing spree. Remember that?

Most people would have to google MGTOW, but that's to find out what it means. I see it used on youtube all the time. Are they low hanging fruit? Hell yes, they're fucking idiots. What's your point?

It's all part of a big push to redefine "feminism". It's a ham-handed attempt at an ideological purge based on semantics. I haven't seen anything like this since the Republican push against the word "liberal" in the late eighties. For maybe ten years liberals were bullied into calling themselves "progressives". Now they're trying to bully feminists into calling themselves "equalists".

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-20
If you are an actual feminist, there a LOT of other things that matter a lot more that you can expend energy on, rather than bringing attention to some low hanging fruit online. This is more about feeling better about yourself, as evidenced by the guy WISHING there were MRAs on here to make fun of, which wouldn't be so bad if people just admitted it.

Hello, New Friend. Welcome to PoeTV.com

Okay, so you want me to admit...what? That if you're a feminist, a subculture of militant antifeminists isn't even worth talking about? Hey, I'll get back to you on that, okay?

>>This is more about feeling better about yourself, as evidenced by the guy WISHING there were MRAs on here to make fun of.

Was that Asian Hick's meaning? I didn't quite get that.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-20
I'm going to go ahead and repost that with the >> for quotes restored:

>>If you are an actual feminist, there a LOT of other things that matter a lot more that you can expend energy on, rather than bringing attention to some low hanging fruit online. This is more about feeling better about yourself, as evidenced by the guy WISHING there were MRAs on here to make fun of, which wouldn't be so bad if people just admitted it.

Hello, New Friend. Welcome to PoeTV.com

Okay, so you want me to admit...what? That if you're a feminist, a subculture of militant antifeminists isn't even worth talking about? Hey, I'll get back to you on that, okay?

>>This is more about feeling better about yourself, as evidenced by the guy WISHING there were MRAs on here to make fun of.

Was that Asian Hick's meaning? I didn't quite get that.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-19
>>Welcome to the planet Earth, where the sky is blue, water is wet, and Nominal lacks even the most basic grasp of whatever situation is being discussed. These are the constants around which we base our reality.

Well, to be fair, the sky isn't ALWAYS blue.

>>I'm a little sad that we managed to demonize MRAs so early on poeTV. I'm willing to bet money we'd have a few open MRAs if there wasn't such a stigma.

I'm upfront about being a Boxxy fan. Homer is upfront about being into "My Little Pony". Leave it to the MRAs to pussy out.

Oh well, I guess if you want to interact with MRAs, you'll have to be satisfied with going to EVERY OTHER SITE ON THE GODDAMN INTERNET.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-08-20
Regarding Nominal being designated "the official Poetv closeted MRA/virgin/neckbeard/fedora", I never said that, and I don't believe that. All I know is that when you use the words "White Knight" or "mangina", you become someone whose opinions don't need to be taken seriously. That's MY rule, not POETV's rule.

My biggest complaint about the MRAs is how any man who disagrees is not really a man. It's the most insidious and deliberately employed anti male stereotype there is. If men can only support feminism because they're emasculated or sexually desperate and hoping to be rewarded by sex, what does that say about men as a gender? You've got to admit that when men are propagating the stereotype of self hating men, you've reached a special level of irony.
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