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Desc: Ukrainian Parliament Throws Deputy Vitaly Zhuravsky Into Rubbish Bin
Category:News & Politics, Crime
Tags:Ukraine, mob, protesters, dumpster, into the trash it goes
Submitted:Albuquerque Halsey
Date:09/16/14
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Old People
Whatever this guy may have done (controversial anti-libel law, clamping down on protesters, etc), it's pretty fucked up that this is permitted to happen right in front of Parliament.
EvilHomer
I'd hate to think what would happen if someone tried this in America.

SolRo
it says what they were angry about in the description

"A mob vents its fury against a member of Ukraine's parliament after a vote granted an amnesty to pro-Russia rebels."


The rebels shouldn't have taken the cease fire, with animals like these controlling the government, they'll get screwed over as soon as they disarm.

baleen
They are Euromaidan party protesters.
The minister in question is actually on their side and a member of Maidan. He believes the people throwing him in the dumpster were plants from the opposition (Anti-Maidan), but some of them have come forward to apologize, and are in fact Maidan members.

They're angry and out of control because Russia has been fucking them in the ass for years, because there are thousands of dead people, and because they're terrified.

SolRo
HAH.

You're with the neo-nazis as well as with the radical Israelis?

What a fuckup you are.

EvilHomer
>>Russia has been fucking them in the ass for years

Centuries, you mean. The Russians have been engaging in imperialist actions against the people of the Ukraine pretty much non-stop since the Middle Ages.

SolRo
you really think this mob knows jack about ukraines history?

EvilHomer
They live there, so yeah, probably. More than any of us, at the very least.

Shockingly enough, people who live in other countries often have some idea of what the country they're living in is like.

SolRo
Riiight.

Which is why so many angry redneck protesters in the US have a perfect knowledge of Americas much shorter history.

baleen
SolRo, you're a fucking idiot.
And yes, I majored in Russian history so I'm well aware of the Ukraine's special in it.

SolRo
also, the credibility of Ukrainian historians is questionable at best.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=137509

EvilHomer
Now you're talking about a "perfect knowledge"? How do you go from "Ukrainians know jack" to "Ukrainians fail to possess an impossibly high standard of knowledge about"? Please stop shifting your goal posts, Mr SolRo.

SolRo
Reading comprehension, do you have it?!

Old People
I am a Neo-nazi and a radical Jew.

SolRo
I guess it's just me who finds it funny that baleen is supporting neo-nazis that are anti-Semitic in the classic Nazi tradition.

no one else see some irony in that?

EvilHomer
Not as ironic as you claiming to have zero tolerance for neo-Nazis when you wholeheartedly embrace groups with ties to the actual Nazis.

Did you ever correct that flaw in your reasoning? Or have you bellyfeel'd your way past it?

SolRo
what? what delusional fever dream are you talking about now?

EvilHomer
Well duckspoke, Mr SolRo, but you're not getting off that easy. Here's another fun link to add to the collection:

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/nazis_postwar_egypt.htm

Altogether, that's almost three hundred card-carrying Nazi war criminals who were employed in key positions by Israel's arch-nemesis, Egypt, following the Second World War. The list includes a half-dozen Gestapo chiefs, Eichmann's right hand man, and the notorious head medical torturer from the Buchenwald death camp. Kinda puts your "four or five Ukrainians who may or may not be sympathetic to Neo-Nazism" in perspective, doesn't it?

SolRo
And when did I say Im a fan of immediate-post-war Egypt?

Why are you being so retarded? is it a dietary thing? are you eating too much cock?

SolRo
also it's not 4 or 5 Ukrainians that are neo-nazis, it's thousands...and hundreds of them were armed by the new fascist government to act as "police" and "militia"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukrainian-soldiers-filmed-wearing-naz i-helmets-deny-neo-nazi-links-1465306


they're neo-nazis and only idiotic stooges like you can ignore reality to deny it.

EvilHomer
So you're now willing to admit that Israel was justified in defending itself against the Arab invasions. Good.

Now, what about Palestine? Do you stand by your former claims, that any government which actively collaborates with Nazis (such as Palestine or, allegedly, the Ukraine) is to be considered "fucking evil" (to use your own phrasing)?

SolRo
Oh just go fuck yourself you idiotic pony shit.

I'm done even reading your idiotic tripe.

EvilHomer
And SolRo, we already went over the Azov battalion. Again, until you can demonstrate how a single volunteer militia battalion made up mostly of *Russians* is supposed to be representative of the Ukrainian military as a whole, there's really nothing more for you to say.

EvilHomer
There's no need for profanity! I just want you to be consistent. Your stated political views are haphazard and, in this case, blatantly contradictory.

You are a rational person! I think. If your positions are inconsistent and contradict each other, you know that they should be re-examined.

SolRo
my last reply to your idiotic ramblings;

Most Ukrainians are "Russians" by your inept and moronic standards that you only apply when talking about Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

They aren't "just one" they are one of several, up to 7000 are in these "small, insignificant" neo-Nazi death squads that operate at the command of the government and are on the front lines.

Poroshenko praised them and awarded their commander a pistol at a recent awards ceremony...he praised them so much more than the regular army that he barely stopped from getting on his knees and giving him a blowjob.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=717_1410465698

at 2:15



But I know you will ignore all this, because you are a fucking loon. And you're just as retarded in baleen with your amazingly stupid support of anti-Semitic Ukrainian Nazis and zealous belief of Israel's divine right to murder and conquer with impunity.


So that's that. You aren't worth my otherwise worthless time or effort.

baleen
SolRo, you're an idiot.

EvilHomer
So who are the others? Where are you getting this figure of 7000 from? And even if it's true, so what? As has been pointed out before, the Ukrainian military has more than one million servicemen at the moment. You need to prove that Azov is representative of the Ukrainian military as a whole; 7000 won't do that, any more than the 300 or so (mostly Russian) men in Azov would.

And you've yet to explain your contradictory attitude towards Nazism. You can have a zero tolerance policy towards Nazis. You can support Palestine. But you cannot do both.

(for the benefit of anyone new to this fagdance: some weeks ago, Mr SolRo emphatically stated that any government with ties to Nazis was to be considered illegitimate and "fucking evil". Whereupon, he was provided with a series of links, demonstrating the historically irrefutable links between not only Palestine, but indeed the entire Arab region, and Nazi Germany. This is not woo-woo history. I'm sure almost everyone here is well aware of the PLO's non-controversial, direct historical connection to Nazism, but evidently SolRo was not, and he's finding it hard to reconcile those facts with his commitment to the current talking points of Russia's propaganda machine.

Give him time. I'm sure he'll come around.)

Bobonne
But no.

They're all "animals". Because that's a really good way to think of people you're opposed to ideologically.
SolRo
No. They are animals because I've seen video and pictures of what their kind did at the Odessa Massacre. They're fucking animals.

EvilHomer
"They're fucking animals!"

- SolRo. Nuanced and sensible as ever.

SolRo
So what nuanced phrasing should I use to describe a mob that strangled a pregnant woman to death and burned/beat another 40 people to death?

EvilHomer
How about, "they're people"? Because that's what the Ukrainians are?

Normally, I'd use this opportunity to point out how silly it is to blame all Ukrainians ("their kind!") for a single incident, but I don't think you'd be receptive to that. So instead I'll ask you: what *kind* of animals are the Ukrainians? You know, in your expert opinion? Do they get to pick their *own* fursonas, or will they be assigned fursonas, by someone in authority - you, I guess? I hope you will let them be wolves and foxes SolRo, because everyone likes wolf and fox fursonas, but if you decide that wolves and foxes are too cool for those DANG DIRTY UKRAINIANS, then might I suggest they be ponies instead? Ponies would tie in with their Cossack roots, and also then the Ukrainians could use the power of friendship to stop Russian neo-Nazis from taking over their country, instead of having to resort to guns.

SolRo
Christ you're stupid.

I didn't say "all Ukrainians are animals", I said -these- Ukrainians are animals.

or is your degenerate mind also assuming the Ukrainians killed in Odessa weren't Ukrainians, and the rebels aren't Ukrainians, and the 2700 people killed by the fascist military crackdown weren't Ukrainians either?

EvilHomer
So -these- Ukrianians were the people who strangled a pregnant woman and burned 40 people to death? How do you know? Did you recognize their faces or something?

Please define what exactly you mean by the phrase, "their kind".

SteamPoweredKleenex
"No True Ukrainian fallacy" in 3... 2...

SteamPoweredKleenex
Maybe someone can dig up some Chechen videos next? I bet Sol hates "their kind" about as much, depending on the time of day.

SolRo
Odessa Massacre was carried out by a street mob of Ukrainian neo-Nazi nationalists.

this event was carried out by a street mob of Ukrainian neo-Nazi nationalists

is so hard to draw parallels between the two?




@SPK

So I guess you hate all muslims if you hate ISIS? Or you just stupid and making claims about me without having a clue.

EvilHomer
The people in this video are neo-Nazis? Do you have a source for that?

And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question: if Ukrainians are animals, then what animals are they? It's an important point, because some animals are a lot nicer than others; sharks, for example, are assholes, but I don't think anyone would mind if the Ukrainians were a pack of cute cuddly squirrels.

SolRo
The neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine are swine...but even that's a compliment, since pigs are smarter than them.

EvilHomer
Huh. You know who labels entire groups of people "swine", on the basis of some grotesquely exaggerated ideological dispute?

THE NAZIS.

SolRo
jesus Christ your stupidity is omnipresent.

EvilHomer
Please don't send me to the Camps, Herr SolRo, I'll be good, I swear!

SolRo
You must be one of those idiots that thinks the Nazis are romantic.


http://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/15/ukraines-romantic-nazi-st orm-troopers/

Spaceman Africa
I thought Solro would know better than to get baited by EvilHomer of all people

SolRo
And I know the neo-Nazi apologists here like to deny that these are neo-Nazi protestors, but you can see the red and black flags of the neo-Nazi group Right Sector throughout the video.
baleen
It's the battle flag of the UPA.
It's a symbol of Ukrainian independence.
I love how you two starred this because your tantrum didn't get the respect it deserved.

SolRo
I two starred it for the title and description, you utter twit.

The flag is the Right Sector flag, you can make out that it has the white lettering on it (which says "Right Sector" though the video isn't clear enough to actually read that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector


Any other excuses, you stupid little neo-Nazi stooge?

EvilHomer
I respect you, SolRo. Please don't cry. :(

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