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infinite zest - 2015-12-29

The narrator sounds so optimistic though.. I know some of you work with CGI and I've dabbled in it myself on the side. Is this kind of the daily grind? If so hire me!

fedex - 2015-12-29

yes it is. This looks about the same as the cats we did for Cats and Dogs almost 15 years ago. Not alot has changed.

infinite zest - 2015-12-29

Awesome. I think the last CGI movie I saw was G Force, because frankly I was too high to be anywhere except a dark theatre and needed to kill a couple hours, and I like guinea pigs. And the guinea pig animation was kind of off: anthropomorphism is one thing like Alvin and the Chipmunks or Garfield, but G Force are secret agents living in a pet shop, and are every bit as real as Azrael is a pet cat.

There's a couple of studios up here like Will Vinton, so maybe I could take a few courses or something, as I feel like I'm getting too old for my line of work, or it's making me old anyway. I don't really have a portfolio or anything but I did make a fairly realistic-looking tiger explode for an Adult Swim pilot idea that never happened.. it's almost the new year so maybe I'll make a resolution of sorts!

But mostly because I wanna work with guinea pigs :)

BiggerJ - 2015-12-29

Someone posted a good description of the current state of the VFX industry here - https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/2s5kdq/vfx_a_dead_end_job/cn mots9

Is there any chance of this ever changing, or is it fucked?

infinite zest - 2015-12-29

Yeah, Will Vinton Studios now is basically an art institute ever since Nike took over, and a friend of mine who was taking classes there tallied up the numbers and she said it was cheaper to be on a phone sex line the entire time than it was to go to school for it, which makes it about as cynical as wanting to be a Philosophy major (which I was) knowing that I'd be changing adult diapers 10 years later for 11 bucks an hour..

infinite zest - 2015-12-29

But I'm assuming that it's gonna change. Boomers are working longer to support their kids, so I could substitute "Philosophy Degree" with "Law Degree" and still be in my situation post-grad. And CGI movies aren't going anywhere fast. Personally I might try to get some stuff around without taking any expensive classes, cutting out the middleman, and see where that gets me. I can assume that the answer is "not too far" but my cousin did it! Wrote and directed his own movie. And his movie had fairly decent CGI as well and a couple of stars like Max Von Sydow and such and such! It was just really badly thought out..

Tough American Bouncer - 2015-12-29

I like how slapping bad CGI-catface on to the real thing makes everything look fake.

Meerkat - 2015-12-29

Hey, they put a lot of effort into making everything look fake!

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-29

It's like they didn't even bother to color match the different elements or anything.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-29

Something something stencil buffers.

gravelstudios - 2015-12-29

so much work for such a terrible movie.

badideasinaction - 2015-12-29

Yeah, but they probably look at it as a library-building exercise, so when a movie with actual pedigree comes along wanting the same thing they've already done it and can improve upon it depending how much money is thrown at them.

Nikon - 2015-12-29

The first one made back five times the amount of money put into it. The second only made back three times its budget.

gravelstudios - 2015-12-29

profitable != good

badideasinaction - 2015-12-29

For the guys in the VFX industry, profitable means they get to eat and hopefully not go bankrupt, so for them shitty clunkers of movies are a godsend. Good might get them an award at best. All a matter of perspective.

Two Jar Slave - 2015-12-29

I hate the way cartoon animals over-emote. Five for reminding me why I never watch cartoon movies, even "the good ones".

Meerkat - 2015-12-29

The problem is that most cartoon animals are classically trained for the stage. It's necessary to over-emote for the stage as opposed to the screen because the audience can be farther away, so everything needs to be more exaggerated.

Many cartoon animals find the transition from stage to screen difficult to adjust to and some can't adjust. Like Grayson Hall, they are doomed to a life of over-emoting in every single scene they are in. Often writers will choose not to end a scene with a reaction shot so avoid having the scene end on an over-the-top emote-fest.

Hooker - 2015-12-29

And that's how much effort it takes a talented professional to carry out someone's bad idea.

gmol - 2015-12-29

The portfolio of everyone who worked on this would almost certainly move the best artist that you* know to tears of shame.

*the general "you", intended to support Hooker's general sentiment

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-30

I don't know, I'm seeing more skill than talent here.

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