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ashtar. - 2023-08-12

I love that it's a pointless, arbitrary record she's pursuing. Fuck adventure tourists.


crojo - 2023-08-13

all records are arbitrary and pointless


Binro the Heretic - 2023-08-12

I feel bad for the sherpas. It's pretty much the only way they have to make enough money for their families to survive.

I don't care if a sport climber dies.


Cena_mark - 2023-08-12

The shitty thing about this record seaker is that the prior holder of this record is Tenjen Sherpa, a Sherpa who accomplished the record to bring recognition to his people's often unrecognized contributions to the sport. Here she is literally stepping over a dying Sherpa as so many have done before to break that record.


ashtar. - 2023-08-12

I want to point out that Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay refused to tell anyone which one of them was the first to summit Everest (until Norgay later wrote his autobiography). Hillary declined to have his photo taken on the summit. He spent the later part of his life helping to build schools and hospitals in remote parts of the Himalayas.


Anaxagoras - 2023-08-13

This is a really fucking stupid news story. At those altitudes, climbers *can't* rescue other climbers; they literally don't have the energy or wherewithal to help others that aren't helping themselves. At lower altitudes, say... halfway down the peak, climbers can & do help incapacitated climbers & sherpas. But near the top every person is, by necessity, on their own.

In other words, those climbers would be stepping over the body of the fallen person regardless of the race or "expendability" of the fallen person.

To be clear, exploitation of the sherpas is a problem. But it's a problem common to any rich country/poor country interaction. But this nonsense story is highly misleading; this isn't an example of the natives being treated as trash.


Accidie - 2023-08-13

Yeah, this is the most armchair outrage story there could be. it doesn't matter if that's a sherpa, your best friend, or your mom. If you try to pick that guy up to get him down then you die. This is on one of the highest most fatal mountain peaks on earth. Going there is incredibly high risk and if you fall or become incapacitated, there is no helicopter, no ambulance, just death. If people want stories about white people being racist so badly i don't think they needed to go to the furthest points on the planet to find it.


Adjuvant - 2023-08-13

Read Into Thin Air or Buried In The Sky for lots of examples of all kinds of people being left to die on mountains, and why. Like it or don’t, but deciding to climb these mountains comes with an understanding that if you get into trouble there’s a very good chance nobody can help you up there.


ashtar. - 2023-08-13

I mean, I don't know much about mountaineering. Maybe there wasn't anything they could do.

But other climbers on the mountain are the ones who filmed this and brought attention to it, and they did not think it was ok. The guy who died also apparently didn't have adequate equipment (e.g., no gloves) or training.

Do you think the course of action would have been the same if it was the white lady climber going for the record who was injured?


Anaxagoras - 2023-08-13

"Do you think the course of action would have been the same if it was the white lady climber going for the record who was injured?"

Assuming that this did in fact take place somewhat near the summit (i.e., at a very high altitude), then I definitely think the same course of action would have been taken. I've watched a couple documentaries about climbing Everest (I've long been fascinated by that act of insanity), and they all emphasize the weird "death zone" at the highest altitudes & the effects it has on the human body. If you can't walk out of the death zone under your own power, you're not leaving the death zone at all.

Please note that I'm *not* saying that the dead guy "got what he deserved", or whatever. It's not a *good* thing that he died. I just think it's unfair & unrealistic to morally blame the other climbers.

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