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Desc:This is a clip from episode 483 of 'The Atheist Experience' TV show.
Category:Religious, Science & Technology
Tags:Monkeys, Big Bang, fossil record
Submitted:Mike Tyson?!
Date:03/02/08
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Comment count is 28
kingarthur
This would work really well as an animated Home Movies segment. I can see Melissa and Brendan fielding these questions as part of a movie with Jason as the caller.

Also, "Well you didn't let me." Oh fucking PLEASE.

Also also, the caller kinda sounds like Jon Benjamin.
robotkarateman
I was thinking he sounds almost exactly like Larry Block, which of course led me to thinking about how this whole thing would've been much more entertaining as a Joe Frank bit with some soothing background music and Joe suddenly veering off course halfway through the conversation to relate his trip to Italy and how he met a one-armed Cambodian woman who had stigmata but she was disrespecting God because she didn't have a complete set of appendages on which to display the stigmata. Then Larry Block would talk about how Hollywood hates him and Joe would follow it up with a story about Leon Redbone's socks.

MaulLove
"Ok people, there's the fundamentalist argument for Creationism, there's people, and there's monkeys."

I love the hosts, mature and condescending at the same time.
Xenocide
What makes me sad is that Larry King put forth almost the exact same argument when he did a show on evolution a while back. "Well, Richard Dawkins, if there's evolution how come we still have monkeys?"

John Holmes Motherfucker
Literally put me to sleep.
Honest Abe
not enough linux

DrVital
Did you type your comment while sleeping?

Sudan no1
he did, literally.

baleen

I literally had no idea.

CornOnTheCabre
I am literally foaming at the mouth right now.

Literally.

ChocFullOfFunk
This was really funny. There is something lovable in how hilariously ignorant that man was.
Adramelech
The caller is a totally perfect representation of every quasi-religious layman who has ever attempted to have a scientific debate. It's so stereotypical it could almost be a parody.
RandomFerret
They could have handled that better. Let the guy finish, give him enough rope to hang himself, then tear apart his argument.
Mike Tyson?!
I think his argument was that evolution was a theory (and therefore just a guess) and there are still monkeys.

takewithfood
I would describe Bill's argument thusly:

a) evolution and creation are the only two possible theories because they are the only two I've ever heard about;
b) evolution and creation are in direct competition with one another, but only one can be right; disproving one proves the other
c) I don't understand evolution, and have never heard the term "argument from personal ignorance", so evolution can't be real
d) all that is left is creation
e) if creation is real, so is everything in the bible

Though he did not get into it, I would put money on the following thoughts being in his head at some level:

f) heaven sounds better than rotting in a box in the ground, so, so I'm rooting for that team
g) if there is no creator, I will feel silly about believing in one all this time
h) people I know, love and respect also believe in a creator, and I want to remain on the same side of the issue as them; accepting evolution feels like betrayal

SolRo
The poor guy already hung himself, but badly...didn't snap the neck.

The the host just put him out of his slow-strangulation misery

EvilHomer
Raelians.
SolRo
"Bye"


I believe that's that best way to debate someone that clueless and stupid.
EvilHomer
The best part is he probably walked away from the phone fuming, convinced he'd come up with a rock solid argument that Baldo Beardski and His Frumpy Assisant couldn't answer.

Rodents of Unusual Size
"You totally lost me"

(shifting eyes of non surprise)

My proof is...uh...uh...uh...um...evolution isn't valid!

I want to hear this man's opinion on maps.

DK1987
The guy is an idiot, but this video isn't entertaining in the same way bananas= proof of creation was.


oregano
I really need to start watching public access more.
halon
This man is a logic hero.

I also like how the chick is absolutely gleeful towards the end about what this guy is saying. "Wait a minute, he's about to say it!"
Spit Spingola
Well worth the watch for the end.
tamago
I knew this was from Austin before I even watched it.
phalsebob
So this is my theory- Creationists are trying to 'win' the argument by demanding that the theory of evolution be explained and re-explained to them every single time you speak with them, while simultaneously dragging you over the hot coals of their ignorance. Then, when you give up due to exhaustion, or just refuse to get pulled into that fruitless argument yet again, they can claim some form of victory. I also believe that the 700 club sends out booklets and/or runs seminars on how to do this. My proof is monkeys.
lucienpsinger
Great ending. I used to watch this show years ago. My favorite caller tried to assert that the Bible must be true because:

[meekly] "They made a movie about it."
IrishWhiskey
He talks about the Garden of Eden and the origin of life from one place, and then immediately after talks about how evolution is wrong because it assuming a starting place for life, when clearly there's lots of animals all over the place.

So the only argument he actually managed to make, was disproving the Bible.
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