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Desc:It sounds like a Tennesee jug band sans jugs and on mescaline
Category:Arts, Educational
Tags:monks, Buddhist, not a cat, chanting, anatta
Submitted:Smellvin
Date:03/03/09
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Comment count is 35
mouser
I think I saw the flower move at some point.
BillFisto
... And Bingo was his name, oh!
Triggerbaby
Hypnotic.

I like it when Dr. Teeth joins in at 6:54.

Ashenblade
You had me waiting in anticipation for 6 minutes and 54 seconds. It was totally worth it.

Anonymous
Dr. Teeth and the monks of the holy order of The Electric Mayhem.

The Mothership
Oh, Buddha save us all.

kingofthenothing
It sounds like Dethklok, but a capella.
j lzrd / swift idiot
It's like Underworld, remixed by one of those Squarepusher / Autechre / Venetian Snares type groups,... but a capella.

With Dr. Teeth dubbed in.



Holy shit this is awesome. If you play it low, and if you play your instrument of choice over it, it makes a good metronome. Thought I'd point that out.

kingofthenothing
For some reason I think this sounds awesome when mashed up with the Pi Song video from Hard & Phirm.

socialist_hentai
so non-abrahamic religions are also retarded? who'da thunk it?
oddeye
You're retarded.

baleen
what oddeye said.

The Townleybomb
Aaaand SOLD for 0 to the man in the saffron robe!
Anonymous
half of these are for you, half of them are for Dr. Teeth.

dorje
Five stars for Daimoku chanting by Westerners from the Nichiren school (basically Japanese Mormons), which doesn't require vinaya vows or ordination - basically this is a bunch of (probably) American boys who got together to do some Japanese singing around a Buddhist theme. Not much connection with either Buddhism or monasticism beyond that.
baleen
How is Nichiren equal to Mormonism and why does it matter if they're white?

Nikon
dorie: different schools of Buddhism use different Buddhist sutras. The recitation of the Lotus sutra is central to this particular school. So their saying the Lotus sutra has very much to do with a specific type of Buddhism.

dorje
hi baleen: american != white, but I think nationality is salient to the discernible style of chanting, as was noted by the submitter.

correlations:
joseph smith vs. nichiren
latter day prophet vs. "second buddha"
exclusive doctrinal correctness
requirement to proselytize vs. shakubuku
apocalypticism vs. mappo
book of mormon vs. gosho/go-ibun
appropriation of masonic symbolism vs. mantrayana symbolism

for nichiren these include daimoku as mantra, gohonzon as yantra; in both mormonism and nichiren these appropriations are paired with doctrinal criticisms of the relevant source traditions.

here my comment was intended to emphasize the social role, and effects of shakubuku upon the group, in particular.

dorje
nikon: obviously the lotus sutra is basic to mahayana buddhism in general, but the relevance of chanting sections of it, and usage of its name in japanese as some kind of dharani, is subject to criticism of emic semiotic interpretations which can still vary as more or less buddhist. second, the role of the ordained community of bhikshus and bhikshunis is normatively considered the third aspect of the foundational triple jewel in buddhism (buddha, dharma, sangha) in which buddhists definitionally take refuge. because of this, variants of buddhism which do not possess some monastic lineage at all (and/or actively discourage its valid continuation) can hardly be considered buddhism - in many nations the bhikshuni lineages are having to be restored for historical reasons, and there's valid concern and reasoning behind going to the trouble and expense of doing so.

also, different schools of buddhism do not actually use substantively different versions of the nikayas or agamas; there are slight variations extant, for instance vows within the theravadin vinayapitaka from the pali canon, versus the vinaya vows left over from the mulasarvastivadins which most everyone else uses. the sense of these writings is substantively the same; they differ primarily in the wording of clauses. there are some differences in the wording of tibetan versus indian prakrit copies of texts (and other translations). aside from this, mahayana has its additional corpus of sutras, mantrayana schools have their various tantras, and in tibet specific teachers have bodies of treasure texts which conform to largely generic procedural norms, and the broadly aggregated philosophies of their lineage. no other school of buddhist thought takes one single sutra, as many followers of nichiren do, and fixate upon it as some kind of ultimate sutra, at the expense of comprehending dharma through a thorough comparative analysis of all extant writings. in general, be cautious of those who tend to limit information as a matter of doctrinal necessity.

allcaps
I have learned much today. I've done henro and can chant the hanya shingyo but I don't know shit really. Five stars for dorje.

Oddly, I've frequently compared Nichiren to Mormonism, but mostly just because of how creepy ordinary Japanese think they are and how much stuff they set fire to back in the day. It seemed to fit. Nice to have some confirmation of my uninformed stereotyping. Now all I need is proof that black people really do like taffy and I'm set.

Nikon
Dorje, that was pretty awesome. Thanks.

baleen

I had to give a lecture on Tibetan dream yoga practices in college. After my thousandth Sanskrit term I panned across the audience and noticed everyone was asleep. I now know what I put them through.
Something about all those soft vowels.

Thanks.

dorje
baleen: dude how could you put a room full of people to sleep lecturing about dream yoga! you know how many funky graphics you could use for that! I could totally pull that off! I just use fancy words when I feel they could inform a capable audience...

(thanks allcaps, nikon)

Nikon
Looks like someone took the High-Speed Aria advantage for his monk character.
Doctor Arcane
heart sutra ftw
oogaBooga
ftw ftl

cognitivedissonance
It's no Heart of Wisdom Sutra, posers.
raeshaldis
This works better than hypnotoad.
athodyd
needs jews harp

also it probably isn't that hard to find a real Tennessee jug band on mescaline as bluegrass has been 99% co-opted by mountain hippies
oogaBooga
OH MY GOD START LIKE FIVE OF THESE AT ONCE
Babies Ate My Dingo
Not as awesome/terrifying/beautiful as Tuvan throat-singing, but getting up there.
Rev. Blackson Pollock
What about a group of throat singers doing this particular sutra?

Pope Caius
That was very nice, Boomhauer.
SolRo
KANEDA!!!
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