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Desc:Get ready for this! Ready to BARACK!
Category:Classic TV Clips, News & Politics
Tags:republicans, Democrats, obama, Al Sharpton
Submitted:Dread Pirate Roberts
Date:12/11/11
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memedumpster
Death cultist has show about bank whore. Five for exponential evil.
Cena_mark
Bank whore? Just cause he hasn't busted trusts in old Teddy Roosevelt style doesn't make him a bank whore.

memedumpster
2008

Goldman Sachs - ,005,491
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000085&type= P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2008

JP Morgan Chase - 7,799
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000103&type= P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2008

Citigroup - 6,771
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000071&type= P&state=&sort=A&cycle=2008

Notice how much they gave to John McCain. Fast forward to 2012 and see how much all these groups now dump on Mitt Romney by comparison. How could he have gotten so much more cash out of them in 2008 than actual Republicans?

Back room deals.

Cena_mark
Everyone takes donations, and I told you guys that Obama was just your typical politician. That he wasn't your messiah. All this hype and he's just your run of the mill, self serving politician.
I bet you dislike him more than I do.

memedumpster
Well yeah, I'm not pretending to be a libertarian, I feel partly responsible for getting this asshat elected. Had I known at the time that banks were throwing millions more at him than John McCain it would have raised some alarms that didn't get raised until he stuck fucking Geithner as Secretary of Make Our Asses All Broke. I feel duped, which is something I made fun of Christians for with Bush. It pisses me off and now I must take out my impotent rage on the Internet, since there's no way any present candidate is sane enough to even be as successfully underhanded as Obama is. He's the top Republican right now and I he'ped.

Fuck me, I suck.

Caminante Nocturno
I think it's really cute how quickly people on the left went from elation back to smug defeatist apathy.

Cena_mark
They set their expectations way too high. I know I'm becoming more apathetic myself. The only serious Republican I'd vote for is Romney. If he doesn't get the nom I'll vote Obama.
Memedumpster, I warned y'all. I knew Obama is a politician in the truest sense. I mean he ain't really good for anything, but running in elections. Y'all should've picked Clinton.

memedumpster
It's not defeatist apathy to admit you've been tricked by a conman with a good eye on his target. Apathy is saying "fuck it, this is the new normal" and defending it. I refuse to be a right wing Democrat, that's not apathy, it's having standards.

Even Cena said he'd vote for him even though he believes "he ain't really good for anything, but running in elections." That's impressive mind control in a candidate. Obama is a damned fine neocon, and a callback to a bygone age when Republicans had intelligence. He used that well to his advantage both then and now with his present crop of battered housewife style defenders. I'd buy him a drink any day, but I'll never vote for him again.

Dread Pirate Roberts
I would argue, though, that this country got a major PR boost in the foreign relations department. And our economy has started to bounce back. Yes, sacrifices were made to get those things, but I think we're more or less on a better track than we would have been under McCain. It would've been a no-mexican police state by now if it were him in the oval office.

Caminante Nocturno
If McCain or any other republican had become president instead of Obama, we'd be at war with Iran right now.

Bort
Do any of you honestly believe that Republicans would even be trying to repair the economy if they held the White House?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: step one is to knock the GOP out of power, and step two is to improve the Democrats. If you try to go straight to step two without taking care of step one, you'll get a repeat of the 2010 election, where the GOP only gets stronger and kills any chance at all for the sorts of reforms you'd like to see.

memedumpster
Right, so long as Republicans have any power, there is no reason to demand better of Democrats. So when Democrats roll over, suck, and die in an orgy of Republican appeasement, it's the Republicans' fault. That whole two years of a super majority where the Republicans were powerless and Democrats sucked banker cock like they were Jenna Jameson only happened in Bizarro Universe. That's how Democrats "tried" to fix the economy.

Bort
Where to begin:

1) This "supermajority" manifested itself only when all 58 Democrats, plus the very liberal Sanders, plus the very conservative Lieberman, all agreed on something. By the way, please note that Lieberman campaigned AGAINST Obama, so getting Lieberman on board was unlikely under even the best of circumstances. And among just the 58 Democrats, you have a spread of opinion from far left to far right. In short, this "supermajority" you seem to think existed, really didn't except for the most uncontroversial of legislation, or where the Democratic leaders worked like hell to achieve unanimity.

2) All claims to a "supermajority" ended in early 2010 when Ted Kennedy died and his seat went to a Republican. How did you not know this? How can any person be opinionated enough to talk politics on the Internet yet fail to be aware of this? Seriously, I'd like to know how.

3) It's unfortunate, but because a lot of people vote Republican, it means they have every legal right to oppose and block legislation they don't approve of. They're assholes about it, but still, they're just exercising their legal rights, and that is a political reality Obama has to deal with. What you call "Obama appeasing the Republicans", I call "Obama obeying the goddamn law". Or are you saying you'd prefer a system of government where a nation's leader gets to dictate exactly what is legal and what is prohibited? No? Then if you want to fix government, first step is to weaken the Republicans so they don't have to be negotiated with.

memedumpster
So...

1.) It wasn't the Republicans fault then, but the all over the board nature of the Democrats? I guess we should have tried to improve them by demanding better? You can't use them both at the same time to shield the status quo Democrat behavior, that's doublethink.

2.) 2010 was two years later, how can you get time confused when it's a linear progression based on the second law of thermodynamics? Oh, right, that's when you can invoke Republicans as the problem with Democrats again.

3.) It is not against the law to not appease assholes and there you go again singing the same "it's the Republicans fault" song again. Also, they never blocked shit, the THREATENED to filibuster but NEVER ACTUALLY HAD TO. You do know what that process really looks like, right? Look up Strom Thurmond and civil rights. No one hand to stand anywhere and say anything to block anything.

Your partisanship has warped your brain, you're just another right wing Democrat who is fine being the new Republican Party. You'll say anything and repeat your same arguments like a Christian defending the inquisition. Have fun with that, I demand a better class of respondent to my trolling.

Bort
Whoa, you have DEMANDS? I had no idea you were so dedicated.

Obama took office January 2009; Scott Brown took office in February 2010. That works out to one year, not two. Again, you should know this.

And yes, one characteristic of the Democrats is that they don't operate in lockstep the way the Republicans do. Are you saying you really want a Democratic Party that crushes disagreement and dissent? I sure don't. It's unfortunate that it's hard to marshal them when every last vote counts, but that is a big part of why they're not Republicans.

fatatty
So if Obama is Wall St's best friend why exactly have they essentially abandoned him with campaign donations this election cycle and started pouring all their money into Romney's campaign?

He's right of center yeah, but he's not a far right whack-job like the GOP field. And I dunno why you're beating yourself up for stopping McCain from getting elected. Do you really think we'd be better off with someone who has a Wall St. dick in each hole, rather than someone who's keen to just give hand jobs to Wall St. and Main St.?

memedumpster
u mad bros?

can I has candidate not defined by opposition?

lolvotes

MrBuddy
Thank you Mr. President, for making it OK for Americans to be warmongers again. Even though no one has ever said how many Libyans lost their lives from American bombs dropped by American pilots in thousands of combat missions, without constitutionally mandated Congressional approval, over a country that posed no direct or indirect threat to the US, what matters is you killed one of America's allies... sorry ENEMIES! For that America gave you a huge popularity boost! Once you've bombed the... I mean FREED the s--t out of Syria and Iran, you'll be guaranteed to win the next election. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Cena_mark
MrBudsmoker, We were killing the bad Libyans to save the good ones. We were saving lives in Libya, Gadaffi lover.

Bort
What was the UN's stance on Libya? I'm sure you knew this already, but the UNSC voted 11-0 (4 abstentions) to send a force to prevent Kaddafi from laying waste to his civilians.

If the US had unilaterally decided to go in, I'd have had assumed there was a vile ulterior motive. If it had been a NATO operation, I would have been highly skeptical. But this was the UN saying that something needs to be done or else a hell of a lot of civilians will die. Not even Russia or China voted against it.

memedumpster
I have no problem with NATO going after Gadafi. The CIA killing Pakistani civilians with drone strikes and then sending Hilary Clinton over there to blatantly tell the civilian populace that she WONT explain why because the CIA is above scrutiny is, however, disgusting, and Obama's doing.

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