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Desc:We're not against rap; we're not against rappers. But we are against those thugs...
Category:Arts, Business
Tags:tupac, Flavor Flav, Jesse Jackson, Easy E, Calvin Butts
Submitted:The Mothership
Date:04/25/12
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Hailey2006
This is no different from what they thought of jazz in the 20s, rock and roll in the 50s, hippie music in the 60s, punk and metal in the 80s, etc.
Most of these rap guys are pretty intelligent and well-spoken IRL
Old_Zircon
Flavor Flav
pineapplejuicer
"beating out everyone from pearl jam to sinatra"
jangbones
In the early nineties, I was optimistic about progress in race relations and thought that the country was less than a century away from actual equivalence and true racial harmony.

I don't think that any more.
Caminante Nocturno
I don't think anybody seriously thought our culture would start the millennium by taking a gigantic, decade-long step backward.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
It just means more black women for me in online dating.

Seven Arts/H8 Red
Quite a few gangsta rappers - Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Ice-T - have gone on to mainstream acting careers. Snoop Dogg's pure caricature at this point. Death Row Records is now owned by a Jewish-Canadian woman.

Gangsta had its place, but it reminds me of Elvis: it's now blatantly mainstream, and frequently lapses into self-parody, like with that Tupac head hologram.
Jet Bin Fever
I wrote a paper in college for a philosophy class about gangsta rap and nihilism. I don't think it was very good, but the idea wasn't bad.

Dread Pirate Roberts
I cant remember the last time I heard real 'rap'. Maybe it's just because I moved out of the city, but I honestly can say all the rap I've been exposed to in the last three or four years has been parody, 'old school' based, or mixed with rock or RnB. Maybe I'm just 'missing out' though.
kingarthur
Death Grips has a wonderful new album out yesterday...

TeenerTot
Haha! Calvin Butts!!!

"Butts got so angry..." Heehee.
spikestoyiu
My God... '91-'94 were such amazing years for hip-hop.

Do yourselves a favor and download the Rub Radio mixtapes for those years, even if you don't really care about hip-hop:

http://www.itstherub.com/radio.htm#history

The late 70's through the early 80's are interesting from a historical perspective, but the early 90's were definitely the height of the genre.
Mancakes
Holy shit those are badass, thanks.

spikestoyiu
No problem. If I can get anyone to listen to these things, I'll feel like I've accomplished something.

'91 and '93 are my favorites, by far.

jangbones
thank you

I agree with your assessment, an innovative era in music

Wonko the Sane
thanks for that, spike

spikestoyiu
Did... did I just see Wonko The Sane five star something? Early 90's hip-hop is bringing out the best in everyone.

Hank Friendly
If you can put yourself in Tipper Gore's shoes and imagine yourself catching your kid listening to Eazy E maybe it'll make more sense

"fuck the white house, it aint my house,
you can burn the motherfucker down for all i care
cause t-shirts and khakis is all i wear"
Cena_mark
"Easy E" is a tag? Its Eazy-E. Cause I'm the E A Z Y E and this is the season to let the real muthaphukkin' Gs in.
Get with it Fatherboat.
Scrotum H. Vainglorious
Yo, C-dawg, what happened up in Kodiak? Heard there was a shooting. Were you involved?

The Mothership
easy-e with a dash doesn't link, and I ain't about to set no trends with that.

TeenerTot
Now do Rob Bass.

Cena_mark
I don't know any more about that incident than the media is reporting.
OKAY Forget about the dash, stop spelling it with an "S". Its a "Z" ea Z y - e. Trust me here, I'm a huge fan.

Rudy
Gangster Rap is the angriest kind of Rap Music.
Blue
You know what else offers nothing of redemptive value? Assholes running the God scam.
That guy
This is fascinating in so many different ways, not the least of which are how this is dated in some ways, and just plain forgotten in others.

If this isn't too faggy: Back then, as now, I was fine with the criminal-poet persona, but never the actual artists, music or lyrics, partly because it all seemed to perpetuate viciousness, especially once it was commodified. (Russel Simmons I'm looking at you) Did anyone rise above "living in a ghetto is bad" with what he had to say or how he said it?

[ok yeah, that was faggy, but it's a serious question. Musically I always thought it sounded like shit but I'd give it another listen.]
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