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Desc:skip to 9:50 for Dreadlocks Social Justice
Category:Fashion, Educational
Tags:racism, culture, hipsters, attention whore, GataAgressiva411
Submitted:zerdzer
Date:03/25/13
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Comment count is 57
misterbuns
ENTER THE BLACK HIPSTER.
SixDigitDebt
I can't even pick a direction to go in hating this.
Paracelsus
Suggestion: Achebe dies last week, and we are left with this insufferably self-involved, bubble-dwelling, ignorant poseur, whose only argument for anything is a shallow understanding of one direction of historical/racial dialectic.

AmericanAir
I'm just going to hate her hair.

memedumpster
If said culture predates your existence by hundreds of years, you're the trend.
EvilHomer
Well no shit your culture's not a trend. Hello? Your culture was so last month.

NICE NOSE PIERCING, Miss I'm-Still-Living-In-2012.
Meerkat
Yes, white hipsters adopted your culture. NOW STOP SPEAKING ENGLISH YOU FUCK.
svraz
What do you mean Meerkat? I think I know what you mean but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Meerkat
The benefit of your doubt is worth nothing to me.

Give me money instead.

American Standard
AHAHAHAHA. Aha ha ha ha.

Mummies and bog bodies are pierced and tattooed. Scythians, Egyptians, Celts, Amazonians. You can't say where anything originated when it's that old, period.

Fucking get over yourself.
EvilHomer
The Celts just wanted to be cool like all the black people they saw on TV.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
What a miserable person.
Pillager
I'd have gone with the "Attention Whore" tag.

That's just me.
zerdzer
ok thanks

Blue
I don't think this is a very good use of the term. I think these are her genuine political beliefs.

Using the term when people aren't actually fabricating situations for attention is something that people do when a woman says something that makes they angry but they don't really understand that thing well enough to refute it.

It's dumb because her arguments are pretty easy to refute. For one, she's straight up wrong about the origins of tattoos at the very least. And while I'm super fucking hesitant to minimize issues raised by minorities, I think an argument can be made that there is a line, and that even among the people that care passionately about social justice that line is not anywhere near where she's drawing it.

Also, I'm not too sure it's a good idea to make the cultural norms that white people cannot appropriate culture while other cultures can. That seems like a recipe for shitting white culture down the throats of everyone in the world.

zerdzer
"And while I'm super fucking hesitant to minimize issues raised by minorities, I think an argument can be made that there is a line, and that even among the people that care passionately about social justice that line is not anywhere near where she's drawing it."

huh?

Blue
I'm basically saying that I recognize that the issue of cultural appropriation is a real thing, but I feel that she goes too far in extending it to things like tattoos and piercings. I believe that most of the people that take this issue seriously would agree with me.

(Alternatively, this could be translated as: I don't wanna sound racist, but this lady is crazy. I have black friends and they would agree with me.)

zerdzer
oh, ok

John Holmes Motherfucker
Wait a minute. This is seventeen minutes long?
erratic
anyone notice the disturbance in the force at 1:24? I think it's illuminati spies or something
Jet Bin Fever
Its the last lonely spectre leaving the house, realizing this girl is far too boring to haunt.

Gmork
I knew someone like this. She changed her name to Seven Z Zendragon.
Hooker
So we've now gotten to "white people with tattoos are racist."
John Holmes Motherfucker
She's not an African. She's an American. So how come she gets to wear a nose ring?

Well, I'm sure it's not because she's black. That would be racist.
Binro the Heretic
Tattoos and piercings are an "afirican" cultural thing, eh?

I have some scandinavian and celtic folks who would like a word with you...
Binro the Heretic
Also, the Chinese, Japanese and Polynesians, but your video is directed at "white" people, so...

cognitivedissonance
Man, we sure have a lot of hate around here.


Binro the Heretic
Yeah, but it's not directed at his ethnic background, so it's okay.

Mother_Puncher
"Im not going to provide you with the information"
Yeah no shit. People who are up in arms about this shit rarely do more than call people ignorant and put them down and don't bother informing them on how they are wrong
American Standard
"It's not my job to educate you" is a standard duck for the social justice crowd.

And they're right; it's not. In a perfect world, memories would be longer, school would be more comprehensive, and learning would be recreational. People would express natural curiosity about the nature of the world and go to the fucking library every once in a while.

But there's a difference between educating someone and defending your goddamn argument.

Ancient Europeans DID tattoo and pierce themselves. Practically everyone did. Her argument is just wrong, and "Go READ!" isn't a defense.

John Holmes Motherfucker
The money from the tattoo shops isn't going to the people who originated the practice?

Well, that's because they died thousands of years ago.

Mother_Puncher
I don't think she is aware that Europe wasnt always civilized and was once nothing but a bunch of horribly violent tribes people who practiced body modification partly as sacred rites given by the tribes to signify some kind accomplishment or had meaning and it's not her job to educate herself on that. It doesnt help her agenda of being stupid on the internet. Go read, buddy.

EvilHomer
Nonsense. Europe was always civilized. For the past fifty thousand years, Europe was populated by fat, rich white men, who wore waistcoats and powdered wigs. They spent their days cultivating barley, trading in pottery, and exploiting the genetic resources of Third World rainforests.

Meanwhile, Africans shoved bones through their nose and drew pictures of anchors, hearts, and Polynesian tribal swirls on their arms. Educate yourself.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I tried to count how many times she used the expression "white people". Lost count about five minutes in, at 22.

So you've experienced marginalization in tattoo shops? Did you explain to them that, as a person of color, you were the only one who really had the right to be there? Yes? Well, then, I wonder what the problem was.
John Holmes Motherfucker
I will vote down videos from this woman in the future. I can't resist mocking her, yet I take no joy in it. She's no fun. She's just dreary and horrible.
zerdzer
i understand how you feel

John Holmes Motherfucker
sigh
Mother_Puncher
Go to bed, John. Youre drunk

John Holmes Motherfucker
My last drink was in 1999. I think it's the espresso talking.

simon666
Wait, I thought the whole point of post-colonial cultural critique was to undo binary relationships of power, not simply invert them. So is one group of people telling another group of people what they can and cannot do, what they should or should not do good or bad?

Learn just enough cultural critique to sound like nincompoop. Oof.
John Holmes Motherfucker
Well, this is ironic!



Blackbelt Jones 2 hours ago

Trend? My tattoos are old enough to be your father.

GataAgressiva411

GataAgressiva411 13 minutes ago

LOL!
in reply to Blackbelt Jones




I made her LOL!
Blue
To be fair, that tattoo in Far Cry 3 was pretty racist.
Blue
I think that part of the problem is that nearly every single white person with dreads is a specific kind of hipster racist. People usually don't complain about cultural appropriation unless something has religious significance.

You don't ever hear anyone complain about cultural appropriation with skinheads, and that's a whole subculture that was appropriated by white people. I think it's because they have avoided the reputation of being that kind of racist by getting the reputation of being a different kind of racist.
lordyam
i think the problem is shes a racist and she cant see the difference

lordyam
o stars

Gmork
So are you being silly or you do really believe every caucazoid with dreads is a racist?

Blue
There's a reason I said "nearly every" instead of every.

Are you a troll?

Sudan no1
I'm sorry, but "cultural appropriation" is total bullshit except when it's done to make fun of another culture.

I can see how it might annoy a non-caucasion to see a white person in their cultures' sacred garb, but it's not done out of malevolence and it doesn't cause any reasonable person pain. That said, white people with dreads are usually awful.
American Standard
We're gonna have to disagree on that one.

Cultural appropriation is lifting a culture's superficial aspects and divorcing them from their cultural significance for the sake of convenience, commodification, or fashion. It exists. Madonna in a bindi and sari is appropriation. Madonna's "Vogue" was appropriation. Gwen Stefani's pet Japanese girls were appropriated. And hipster white girls in warbonnets are appropriative as fuckin' all getout.

Not all appropriation... I'd argue not even the vast majority of it... is malicious or strictly about profiteering. At a base level, it's borrowing cool, because marginalized groups tend to have the mystique of renegade cool as a booby prize for being shoved off the edge of respectable society. But what's being appropriated CAN be horrendously offensive. Especially if it's religious in nature, or if a member of the original culture, if THEY were doing it, would be ridiculed for it. (See: Bindis, burqas, henna tattoos, etc.)

John Holmes Motherfucker
I love how she can't actually forbid us to wear tattoos and piercings so she keeps telling us how "I don't appreciate it". Like we did it to impress HER.

Didn't she mention punk rockers? Punk rockers aren't decorating themselves with sacred african symbols. If you consider tattooing separate from the content, that's not culture; it's a technology, like writing or paining. I don't care who invented writing, no one owns it.


I think I have to give the young lady some credit. As ridiculously wrong as she usually is, she has a way of making you think.

FreeOJ
When has other cultures not taken ideas from others? I just disagree with this whole premise that each culture is a vacuum onto itself.
sjohnson301
The Celts also wore dreadlocks and were described as having 'hair like snakes'. Germanic tribes, the Vikings, the Greeks, the Pacific Islanders, the Naga people all wore dreads.

I know this has been mentioned on this thread already but felt the need to do so again for some reason.
sjohnson301
That said, white suburban kids who wear dreads and do that earlobe stretching thing are quite possibly the most clueless group of people on earth, aside from the Easter Island tribe that managed to cut down all of their trees and suffocate their own civilization.

SolRo
Only difference between us and the easter island tribe is that we have to cut down a lot more trees, but we're getting there.

chumbucket
Burning trees is faster but I'm pretty sure National Geographic disproved Diamond's theory already.

American Standard
The ancient Celts also used a form of hair gel, made of a pine resin mixture.

Not related, but fun to know.
chumbucket
News Flash!: "Various sacred cultures of color call dibs on body modification! Stop copying us!"
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