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Desc:The first two words sum up the conservatives pretty well.
Category:News & Politics, Crime
Tags:CPAC, NRA, Wayne Lapierre, gun fondlers
Submitted:TeenerTot
Date:03/08/14
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... mother rapers ... father stabbers ... ... father rapers ...
takewithfood
Arm yo kids, arm yo wife.

Gmork
Reduce gun crime by severely regulating handgun ownership, not rifles. I know rifles are big and scary, but if anyone is actually serious about reducing crime involving guns, that is where to start.
Burnov
more than 3/4 of all gun crime are committed with pistols

roughly the same percentage are committed by individuals with criminal affiliations or a past criminal record (gangs association)

more than half of the victims are also often known to the aggressor and often have criminal affiliations themselves.

long guns comprise 3 to 4% of all fatalities including accidental killing.

Yes, pistols are the problem. The problem is, people with a criminal record don't acquire them via legal means, and honestly given how utterly shitty the U.S is right now, it would be condemning many innocent people to become defenseless victims to prevent them from having firearms to protect themselves.

The detroit police are at the point of now recommending those who live there, and in neighboring townships to get a CCW as police response times are so inadequate.

Nobody should be expected to be a victim because somebody's nuts shrivel up at the thought of law abiding citizens, non criminals, owning firearms.

Nominal
Reduce gun crime by severely regulating penile insecurity, not guns. I know the balls of everyone who don't need guns to live are big and scary, but if anyone is actually serious about reducing crime involving guns, that is where to start.

oddeye
I have no problem with banning guns that don't look awesome.

Cena_mark
Hand guns are the biggest problem. I know you can't get them in Canada. We should ban them here, at least semi-automatic pistols. Revolvers are pretty sweet.

SteamPoweredKleenex
"I have no problem with banning guns that don't look awesome."

There's the solution: Make really awesome-looking guns that are complete crap, inaccurate, even dangerous to the user! We did it to the U.S. auto industry, so why not the firearms industry?

Gmork
Anyone who thinks on such low-frequency bullshit level of logic such as "anyone who has any association with guns is insecure" is part of the problem. You're an idiot, nominal. If you're not going to contribute to a logical discussion you can go sit at the kiddie table.

Nominal
Oh, and that bit about Detroit police encouraging everyone to get a CCW is severely distorted bullshit (like every other gun nut argument if you take 5 seconds to look into it).

It comes not from any official policy, or even a majority opinion of police personnel, but from a single quote by police chief James Craig who based it all on his experience of living in Portland, Maine. Yes, a lower crime rate in a 5 figure population prosperous township compared to a poverty stricken metropolis of millions could only ever be due to concealed carry.

Not to mention all the search results for "CCW permit Detroit police" were nothing but wingnut blogs.

Syd Midnight
"There's the solution: Make really awesome-looking guns that are complete crap, inaccurate, even dangerous to the user!"

aka. the TEC-9. But it turns out that a shitty but scary-looking pistol is way more useful to criminals than a reliable, plain-looking pistol.

gravelstudios
The NRA is still nothing but a lobbyist for gun manufacturers and retailers, and the very rich people who own those companies. They will spread whatever lies, misinformation, and fear mongering they can to make as much money as possible, regardless of who is buying the guns and who is harmed by them. The NRA loves it when children are mass murdered because it means more money for their clients when everyone goes out and buys more guns for self defense.

I have lots of friends who use guns for recreation, and I don't have a problem with that because they are responsible people. My mom has a rifle in her bedroom closet right now and it doesn't bother me one bit. But something is wrong with our culture, and the NRA is not part of the solution.
13.5
The NRA has actually shifted from a consumer advocacy organization in the 80s--back when it supported background checks--to a manufacturer's organization now. Along with the background check switch, the most insane indication of the switch is their position on silencers. Back in the 80s, they had nothing to do with silencer/flash suppressor manufacturers, for the natural reason that a silencer doesn't say "responsible gun owner" but does scream "professional assassin."

The current story is everyone should own a silencer because it's a necessary safety tool to protect children's tender ears.

oddeye
But if you outlaw them responsible gun owners will be forced to use empty soda bottles, wrapped up towels or even pillows in order to protect their kids ears during a professional hit.

Nominal
Why is "because it's fun for recreation" always brought out like that's a legit argument for keeping them legal? Shit, you could have a blast with C4 and grenade launchers, and you would even have "responsible" people who only use them for shits and giggles who never kill anybody, but we don't make those legal because we're not that retarded...yet.

gravelstudios
Let me clarify: I knew a girl in college who liked to go to the shooting range for target practice a couple of times a week. It was just an activity that she enjoyed and felt enriched her life. Or, for example, people who participate in shooting sports at the Olympics. I've never fired a gun and have no desire to, but I simply don't have a problem with all guns under all circumstances. I would be OK with it if there were some kind of mandatory license/insurance system for gun use, similar to driving a car. I would personally estimate that as many as 75% of American gun owners don't need them and shouldn't have them, but it would bother me deeply if the ATF came to confiscate my mom's rifle because 'all guns are illegal period'. I'm totally in favor of clamping down on gun ownership. There are all kinds of guns that nobody has any business owning. Most people who use guns for 'recreation' are crazy rednecks. But making all guns illegal for everybody is reactionary.

Syd Midnight
I breathlessly await the day that black community activists begin a massive recruitment program for the NRA, urging every inner-city minority to sign up and take advantage of all of its benefits, such as the ,000 insurance policy for gun-related injury, or free marksmanship classes, just to see how frightened whites will react. Will they try to enact racist policies to discourage "urban" membership? Will they destroy the NRA in order to save it? I want to know, the schadenfreude would be delicious.

dairyqueenlatifah
"It's why neighborhood streets that were once filled with bicycles and skateboards and laughter in the air, now sit empty and silent."

...the internet?
Kieran27
Whenever I hear that argument about neighborhood streets with bicycles and kids playing etc. from the right, I like to think these people think the Andy Griffith show is their version of a perfect society. Complete with commercials, cause you know capitalism and all that...

Sanest Man Alive
...Goddammit, he still looks like Bob Odenkirk doing a bit.
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